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Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by giov4 »

Interesting but nothing new, all countries doing the same but any information coming from Israel is clearly poisoned to try compensate the negative image that they clearly represent.

Just see the garbage coming from a web search (totally polluted and poisoned with the same spam output quality since years) so this is just an extension of that towards the input of ai.

they can try hard but any person with a non-biased brain does not need to do a google search or ask ai to reach then truth.

Facts are facts, like what was represented in Schindler's list and what is happening now in middle east or other conflicts.

I think the world is becoming much more aware of what real zionism is and that scares them a lot, hence the needed info manipulation.

But we now know who you really are! And yeah their state members daily political statements (about hate violence and racism) just confirm this every day, anybody can understand that and no info pollution needed.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by Fizz43 »

miohtama wrote: post #218

The result of all this is that everyone will hate Israelis, and then thus by proxy, Jews more. The right thing to do would be to stop slaughtering Palestinians. People are not stupid.

Not true. It will only happen if they lose the information war. During 2023/2024 Iran did this exact same thing flooding the internet and no one hates them infact it worked and people link and share and boost their articles.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by westpfelia »

user43928 wrote: post #360
ceejayoz wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://apnews.com/article/ben-gvir-israel-gaza-hamas-netany... > “It’s no secret, I disagree with the prime minister,” he said. “I think targeted assassinations should be carried out in Gaza, taking down 30 to 40 every night. Not just those who pose an immediate threat — there are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people. ” The man used to have a shrine to a mass murderer…

If you hear extraordinary claims, such as the comment above that claims Ben-Gvir called for the daily killing of 30-40 Palestinians, you should ask not only for solid evidence but also context. I am not at all surprised that it was a comment about the targeted assassination of terrorists, or people who participated in the October 7th terrorist attack, or something like that. These tactics are obvious. Take a quote ou…

Sorry what part of the quote was out of context? Sure sounds like he said they arent even people.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by js8 »

zombot wrote: post #316
js8 wrote: post #306

I don't understand why people who don't like fake news and manipulation won't embrace the social graph as a public good. If enough people were willing to publicly certify that their fellow contacts are human, anybody could then assign trust to each social graph node based on the trust they have in the path to them. It would completely decentralize the algorithms and remove the fake accounts as less trustworthy. I thi…

It doesn't scale as a consumer good. Letting go of consumerist habits is just as hard as breaking any other habit. Also, it could just as easily be faked, like so much else. Even if someone offered such an assurance, I wouldn't trust random strangers on the internet. At best it would become an arms race between "this is not a real person" and those who sell fake assurances. And it would be one more weapon to damage a…

I am not really sure how it could be faked. The fake assurance, in order to work, must be connected to you.

By default you could choose not to trust. If you don't trust random strangers it's OK. So I don't see how it would damage someone's reputation worse than today.

It would potentially only add trust. Arguably, today we have bots because we have no other option than to trust without justification. With the public social graph, the trust above the baseline would be justifiable.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by ccppurcell »

nailer wrote: post #301
karim79 wrote: post #44

Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Do you believe that 30 to 40 Palestinians per night pose an immediate threat? Elsewhen in history, genocidal acts have been justified by claiming a non existent immediate threat (of disease, of economics, of fifth columnists, of terrorism).

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by user43928 »

westpfelia wrote: post #375
user43928 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you hear extraordinary claims, such as the comment above that claims Ben-Gvir called for the daily killing of 30-40 Palestinians, you should ask not only for solid evidence but also context. I am not at all surprised that it was a comment about the targeted assassination of terrorists, or people who participated in the October 7th terrorist attack, or something like that. These tactics are obvious. Take a quote ou…

Sorry what part of the quote was out of context? Sure sounds like he said they arent even people.

Was he talking about "Palestinians" as claimed with the implication of civilians, or was he talking about terrorists?

I am not going to entertain further discussion on the matter, as I think I pointed out the issue here rather clearly.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by RobertoG »

nailer wrote: post #301
karim79 wrote: post #44

Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Is not this the guy that wanted to put crocodiles in prisons, but was stopped by the Israeli society because it was bad for the crocodiles?

Israel is becoming so crazy, that it would be funny if the result was not so terrible for the people targeted.

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