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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by _zoltan_ »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #102
sheepscreek wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ultra mode spins up many sub-agents. On a particularly challenging task, I’ve had as many as 29 agents working at one time. Also if you don’t specify, most end up being the same as the parent model which is pretty wasteful. I engineered a skill that spins up Terra High agents for most sub-agents, resorting to Sol Medium for technical research and Luna High for code/in-project research tasks. On a slightly different t…

Most importantly, are you seeing a return on investment for time and ultimate outcome? No one can judge the enjoyment, learning, and hobby aspects. Just wondering if there is an end goal for that much overall expenditure (time, money, energy, etc.)

I absolutely see a return. I do not pay for this (we have a corporate gateway), for the price of a junior developer I can get 3-4-5 senior developer's work done. it's insane value.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by oblio »

mirzap wrote: post #201
resonious wrote: post #196

Where is the official source for this? OpenAI's docs still show non-discounted pricing https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.6-sol

It's discounted if used via OpenRouter, not the official API.

That's weird.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by _zoltan_ »

IshKebab wrote: post #75
CompoundEyes wrote: post #15

I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.

A billion tokens per day?? Plausible estimates put the energy use at about 0.001 Wh/token, which means you're using 1000 kWh/day in electricity, just to generate slop. That's about the same as 50-100 houses. 300kg of CO2 per day - roughly the same as flying from London to New York every three days . I think on average AI energy usage is not as big a deal as everyone is panicking about, but your usage is truly absurd…

"slop"? come on. we're not in 2020 anymore, Dorothy.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by oblio »

bigbluedots wrote: post #220

These threads seem to have become exceedingly vibes-based. Yes, something may now be cheaper or more expensive or whatever, but there is no way to objectively measure quality (except for "trust me bro" benchmarks). So the discourse is people saying that for them, this or that model was better - which is a very low value data point.

> These threads seem to have become exceedingly vibes-based.

If you remember programming language discussions, they are exactly like this.

Software development is still in the leeches and bloodlettings phase.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by blitzar »

paxys wrote: post #74
ec109685 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent $800 in a few hours when my sub maxed out because I was trying to get something done and had a long car ride to let it churn. Their api pricing is absurdly expensive.

Because API pricing is for corporations and subscriptions are for consumers.

I thought corporations were meant to be smart and get b2b / volume discounts - not pay 5-10x what the man in the street is paying.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by oblio »

livinglist wrote: post #192
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #137

This sure looks like a race to the bottom to me, and I love it. If Sol isn't the best model, it is up there... You don't cut the price of the best model for no reason...

The lower the merrier.

Competition is good for users.

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Post by com2kid »

jchw wrote: post #161
hatthew wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like those examples are considered difficult because they're niche topics, but aren't actually all that difficult in a general sense. What I consider truly difficult are things like taking a ticket and implementing it in a preexisting codebase, using a clean and reasonable design that fits the existing style and makes sense to a human, and avoids the footguns I learned by working with the codebase for over a d…

If you said this in 2025 I would've 100% understood, but to be honest getting AI models to do a pretty good job on day-to-day ticket work has become so boring that we don't even bother using the top tier models and higher effort slots for that anymore. I personally wind up tweaking the results a lot and recursively having fresh agents review the diff, but that's just because I'm picky; in a lot of cases the first dif…

All non-trivial code terra has generated for me has had at least one serious bug in it. Typically caught by a review from myself or Sol.

But I wouldn't trust lower tier models for end to end solutions.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by oblio »

blitzar wrote: post #225
paxys wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because API pricing is for corporations and subscriptions are for consumers.

I thought corporations were meant to be smart and get b2b / volume discounts - not pay 5-10x what the man in the street is paying.

FOMO. This won't last forever.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by FluffyPancake »

gb2d_hn wrote: post #206
kelvinjps10 wrote: post #199

I have switched to Chagpt sub now after only using Claude for coding. You get more value for your money and feels like codex has reached Claude code performance in coding (the reason for using Claude) regular plus account allows you to have access to their most powerful model, image generation and asking questions is better because you can use sol but in instant mode and it feels smarter and faster. And finally codex…

I switched as I felt Codex was on a par with Opus, but the chat responses from Sol are just more intelligible than the word soup I've been getting from Opus. I wonder if Opus could be prompted to respond in simpler prose via agents.md

I have also noticed that I am increasingly struggling to read what LLMs are writing, finding it incomprehensible half the time. I stole Matt Pocock's line of "When reporting information to me, be extremely concise and sacrifice grammar for the sake of concision." for the agents.md It makes it a little better. I also specify to use https://github.com/AminBlg/SimpleEnglish/ for all writing it does including code comments. It all feels like a bandaids but that seems to be the best we can do right now.
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