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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by jchw »

hatthew wrote: post #127
jchw wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Fable's dominance is overstated. It definitely has the lead, but quantifying what that lead actually is is really hard. I'm using GPT 5.6 Sol to do some shit that I personally would consider "crazy" - low level undocumented hardware driver alchemy, reverse engineering highly obfuscated code, even a bit of screwing around with a rendering engine in Vulkan, really just about the most complex tasks I can get any…

I feel like those examples are considered difficult because they're niche topics, but aren't actually all that difficult in a general sense. What I consider truly difficult are things like taking a ticket and implementing it in a preexisting codebase, using a clean and reasonable design that fits the existing style and makes sense to a human, and avoids the footguns I learned by working with the codebase for over a d…

If you said this in 2025 I would've 100% understood, but to be honest getting AI models to do a pretty good job on day-to-day ticket work has become so boring that we don't even bother using the top tier models and higher effort slots for that anymore. I personally wind up tweaking the results a lot and recursively having fresh agents review the diff, but that's just because I'm picky; in a lot of cases the first diff is actually pretty damn decent.

Compared to what I am doing at home experimentally, I feel like day-to-day work is absolutely nothing. Not only am I also working with existing codebases in my experimental prototyping, but I am also doing things vastly more complex with vastly harder constraints.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by vintermann »

andai wrote: post #139
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fable is almost unusable for anything but super boring mainstream stuff. I was getting safeguard flagged so often I’ve significantly reduced my usage out of fear they will blacklist/ban me. Some of the topics it’s flagged have been hard for me to understand what it seeing that can be remotely concerning in my requests.

The safety is really funny to me. I ask it a lot of extreme stuff and it goes through, but I ask it mundane stuff and hit the filters all the time.

It has learned a little too well how it works in human society.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by qingcharles »

OutOfHere wrote: post #6
Fergusonb wrote: post #2

Luna saw a huge jump after the price cut and is one of the more competitive models at the new price on openrouter. Maybe they want to see how much market they can grab with Sol? This might help but there are already cheaper models with Sol's intelligence more or less, the most notable being Grok 4.6 at $6/m which makes it a tougher sell

Since when does Grok 4.6 have Sol 5.6's intelligence? I don't believe it.

I use Grok 4.6 every day; it's good, but it's not Opus 5 or Sol 5.6. The gap is closing, though.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by cbg0 »

iammrpayments wrote: post #144
gxs wrote: post #122

Absolutely not I’ve used Claude exclusively for the past few months Was excited when Sol came out a few weeks ago and loaded it up I made the mistake of treating it as if it were Claude - I’d assumed they were close enough in ability and treated them that way Well, turns out my instruction sets for Claude are 100% too complicated for Sol Sol made the stupidest assumptions, constantly did things that it wasn’t asked t…

Why are you being downvoted, is this post an ad or something.

Probably because it's PEBCAK.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by petesergeant »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

I have a "strategy / life-coach" project, and was surprised at how much better Sol is than Fable on it, as I've found Fable to have the edge for most things for me so far. But Sol: questions were better, insight was better, it got the brief better.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by qingcharles »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #62
ec109685 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent $800 in a few hours when my sub maxed out because I was trying to get something done and had a long car ride to let it churn. Their api pricing is absurdly expensive.

> Their api pricing is absurdly expensive. I assume at this point that it subsidizes subscriptions.

Massively subsidized. As soon as my Claude switches from subscription to overage I have to tap out quickly.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by qingcharles »

jaggederest wrote: post #103
paxys wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get a phone number online for a few dollars.

Historically those are less useful because some of the verification systems require a real phone number and that your name is associated with the account, depending on what and how they verify. It's annoying, I use a google voice number as my primary, and it often gets rejected.

Good2Go is $5/mo for a real SIM with unlimited talk/text + 1GB data.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by yieldcrv »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

Claude as a harness at all really spends too much time before giving user feedback

Its a crutch that is no longer competitive

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by [deleted] »

kyxsc wrote: post #89
netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

Sol is way too eager to hone in on small details and ends up with massive over-engineering. Fable does it too - to be fair - but noticeably less. After extensively using both on Max 20x plans, I've concluded that Fable is better for problem solving and coding, whereas Sol 5.6 Ultra shines in debugging specific issues: tackle a problem with Fable then leverage Sol to clean up, double check, or fix specific issues. Fab…

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