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Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by customguy »

judah wrote: post #194
colordrops wrote: post #184

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> european zionist invaders I never thought I'd see this kind of blatant anti-semitism on HN. Jews in Europe were persecuted for hundreds of years as foreign invaders told to go back to their homeland. Immediately after the Holocaust, we realized it was time to return to our own country; we could not rely on the kindness of European nations. And now that we have returned, we're labelled invaders of our own nation, ou…

People are responsible for their actions, and big, racist buckets labelled "Jews" and "Arabs" are meaningless.

Might as well say "humans always lived here, I'm a human, so it's my land now". If this is the level of thought these crimes are defended with, oh boy.

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Post by vintermann »

benregenspan wrote: post #103
EA-3167 wrote: post #85

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> Ben-Gvir is loathed by 90% of Israeli society...Trump still has 33% approval Maybe that 90% number is for Tel Aviv. In national polls, they both have roughly the same approval rating.

I have a long-held feeling with Trump that his most ardent haters don't hate his specific policies, merely that he's so gauche about it, that he has no class.

I have no doubt that Ben-Gvir has a similar segment of haters in Israel. They want the same things, but they don't want to do it in the style of a leering hooligan fishing for a fistfight.

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Post by magic_hamster »

karim79 wrote: post #44

Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

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Post by [deleted] »

karim79 wrote: post #168
ars wrote: post #159

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He specified "terrorists", See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49340403 for actual sources, including in Hebrew (although it was flagged to death for reasons unknown). That message a reply to YOU, but that didn't stop you from posting the same false info multiple times in this thread.

I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

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Post by hunterpayne »

jmyeet wrote: post #79

It's been about 20 years since I read Neal Stephenson's Anathem and (SPOILERS) one thing I think about is the Reticulum, which is the Internet on this world. One aspect is that it's full of what we would now call slop. A lot of it is subtly changed by agents and there are other agents you can use (and, I assume purchase?) that will weed out the fake information. It's basically an arms race of disinformation and slop.…

I hate to break it to you. But it took war'ing state-like actors less than a week to start using LLMs for propaganda purposes. There are pictures that most of what some people think/thought were real that never happened. Pictures that form their opinion on political topics. It was literally instantaneous. It was also remarkably predictable in almost all ways...sigh. Even the topics were predictable. And most people predictably fell for it, even the majority of the posters on this very site.

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Post by aizk »

karim79 wrote: post #168
ars wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He specified "terrorists", See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49340403 for actual sources, including in Hebrew (although it was flagged to death for reasons unknown). That message a reply to YOU, but that didn't stop you from posting the same false info multiple times in this thread.

I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

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Post by protocolture »

codingisfreedom wrote: post #171
polotics wrote: post #154

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"""far from being a perfect state""" ??? it's been captured by a bloodthirsty clique, and all the intelligent & wise people in it are leaving

It has been captured by bloodthirsty clique is true. But so does the US and every other nation around Israel. Just check the facts about each and every government in the middle east.

I mean the bloodthirsty clique that has captured the US is called Israel.

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Post by magic_hamster »

vincnetas wrote: post #143
AuthAuth wrote: post #138

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Wait till you hear what Palestinian leaders say on TV.

well on one side you have huge military on other side you have a pile of rocks that used to be a city. so comparing these its does not make israel look better.

But only one side did October 7th and seems like they had more than sticks and stones. It would appear as if someone (Hamas) decided to literally put every penny they had into weaponizing Gaza, even going as far as tearing water pipes out of the ground to make rockets which they fire on Israeli civilian population.

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Post by 2001zhaozhao »

avaer wrote: post #165
2001zhaozhao wrote: post #58

I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

Sama saw this coming a decade away, which is why he invested in Worldcoin (now World). At some point people (and agents) will be clamoring for human verification at the speed of technology. I'm not a fan of World, but this is a portent of things to come. Spread the disease, sell the cure as they say.

I think we need a similar technology to World being built by a more trustworthy company. The question is how trustworthy does one need to be for people to trust you with their very online identities that are literally needed for others to recognize them as human?
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