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Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by lenkite »

codingisfreedom wrote: post #147
vincnetas wrote: post #143

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well on one side you have huge military on other side you have a pile of rocks that used to be a city. so comparing these its does not make israel look better.

These pile of rocks were funded by Qatar and that money could’ve been used to build schools instead of funding Hamas tunnels.

Wasn't Hamas technically funded by Natanyahu for the explicit goal of dividing Palestinian leadership and to ensure that extremists had both money and power so that he always had justification to wipe out Palestine ?

Look at how evil this group is -> genocide of their entire state is good! (Don't look at the fact that I demanded that this group is explicitly funded - that is not important)

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Post by nashashmi »

YZF wrote: post #131
nashashmi wrote: post #112

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Knowing that smotrich and ben gvir are fanatical morons, do you think that when they are referring to terrorists, they in fact dont mean any and all Palestinians? I dont think these guys differentiate between the two, especially when they speak in Hebrew.

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You are bent on defending the morons. And want to defame the media which correctly took his “kill 30-40 every night” to mean every random person. You say “believe me he means terrorists” but none of his actions actually speak to treating Palestinians differently. He made no calls to end starvation. He wants the Palestinians to leave. Both want to make life for Palestinians unbearable.

It is obvious that if he was misquoted he would have definitely corrected his statement. But he wants the army to hear his words in a confusing manner. And you are on his side when you are defending him and trying to sow doubt in how his words sound.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by hunterpayne »

zmgsabst wrote: post #109
Lerc wrote: post #70

Apart from the ethical implications this is reckless in the extreme if you take into account the recent advances in AI. Putting misinformation out there like that doesn't just have to fool existing LLMs but also all of the LLMs to come in the future. If you look at the mathematical achievements of frontier models recently, their strength has been to bring in information from a vast array of sources and to consider th…

LLMs routinely mindlessly repeated propaganda in their training data. I’ve yet to see a single one identify that on its own, rather than only reluctantly when confronted when documented facts it was objectively wrong. So no, I doubt LLMs will do anything but promoted propaganda.

Many people do the same...

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

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Post by judah »

colordrops wrote: post #184
AuthAuth wrote: post #170

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I dont care about making Isreal look good. I'm just pointing out that both sides use violent rhetoric because as you can see from this thread people did not know. I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.

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> european zionist invaders

I never thought I'd see this kind of blatant anti-semitism on HN.

Jews in Europe were persecuted for hundreds of years as foreign invaders told to go back to their homeland. Immediately after the Holocaust, we realized it was time to return to our own country; we could not rely on the kindness of European nations.

And now that we have returned, we're labelled invaders of our own nation, our historic homeland of 3,500 years. But Jews have been in Jerusalem longer than the British have been in London. We built Tel Aviv from a desert into a modern city. We rebuilt Jerusalem and opened it up to Muslims, Christians, and Jews.

It's wild historic revisionism to claim Jews are stealing Arab lands. There are over 30 Muslim- and Arab-majority nations. There is only a single Jewish nation: our historic, 3,500 year old homeland: Israel.

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Post by karim79 »

I'll say this a third time. And the importance of this article is not the method. It is the motive. Using AI to whitewash war crimes is not cool at all.

Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly.

On television.

So it is both hilarious and disturbing that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like the aforementioned is out in the open for everyone to witness.

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Post by customguy »

AuthAuth wrote: post #170
vincnetas wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well on one side you have huge military on other side you have a pile of rocks that used to be a city. so comparing these its does not make israel look better.

I dont care about making Isreal look good. I'm just pointing out that both sides use violent rhetoric because as you can see from this thread people did not know. I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.

Palestinians aren't claiming to be the only democracy in the Middle East and all that shit.

If individual Israelis want to claim they're not monsters, what Palestinians do or doesn't do doesn't enter into it, only the actions and deeds ( or lack thereof) of the Israelis in question do, and how that meets or fails to meet specific standards of morality. The same goes for Palestinians.

> I think sometimes people forget that the war was started intentionally with full knowledge what would happen.

So, collective punishment. Don't bother about the "violent rhetoric" of any "sides", deal with what you just said and what that says about you.

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Post by magic_hamster »

codingisfreedom wrote: post #169
Georgelemental wrote: post #158

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> Qatar lies Netanyahu said that "Qatar is not an enemy country". Is he wrong about that? https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-14/ty-article/.p...

I don’t support Netanyahu, and so does close to 50% of Israelis. Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges. If you don’t trust Netanyahu then you should disregard the link you shared as well and that just strengthens my point.

> Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges.

This is absolutely true but people don't want to hear about this. Qatar is the main propagator of many student bodies in the US. This is how you get students saying "gloabalize intifada", "death to the USA”, occupying buildings, etc.

Qatar has a long, well funded strategy for influence in the west which is pretty much their only leverage.

In addition they are the main funders of Hamas, alongside hosting the Hamas leaders in fancy hotels in Doha for many, many years.

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Post by codingisfreedom »

y-curious wrote: post #178
codingisfreedom wrote: post #169

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I don’t support Netanyahu, and so does close to 50% of Israelis. Qatar is spreading fake information and is funding Hamas as well as anti-Israel classes in major US colleges. If you don’t trust Netanyahu then you should disregard the link you shared as well and that just strengthens my point.

Yeah but the Haredi will outbreed the rational liberals of Israel and vote towards extremism. If there was a Muslim country with as much power as Israel attacking other countries, it would equally be right to call it out.

It’s mostly the national settlers that pull it toward extremism at its current state, not Haredim.

But it’s also October 7 that made the average joe even more extreme in their opinions.

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Post by codingisfreedom »

polotics wrote: post #189
codingisfreedom wrote: post #171

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It has been captured by bloodthirsty clique is true. But so does the US and every other nation around Israel. Just check the facts about each and every government in the middle east.

what about not whatabouting facts? we are not talking about the miss universe contest here. keep your identity small, it will help you think more clearly.

It’s not “whataboutism”, it’s micro geo political trends. Know the difference.

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Post by codingisfreedom »

Barrin92 wrote: post #187
codingisfreedom wrote: post #144

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>>When Obama used social networks, he was called a genius, but when it’s someone you don’t like Obama used social networks to spread a milquetoast 'yes we can' message, not to justify an ongoing genocide. How is that even a comparison. Israel is closer to Triumph des Willens than it is to promoting the Affordable Care Act, you do realize that right? It's not 'far from being a perfect state', it's waging old testament…

It has been attacked by a Palestinian militia terrorist group. Is it waging old testament wars? No, but it is retaliating at a rate the western world refuses to accept because the western world has different, much much milder kind of problems.
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