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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I was in a very similar situation and this is what I did: - put Forgejo on a little $5 Vultr VPS (I share the VPS with other things, Forgejo doesn't need much resources. I also added some block storage to host my Docker containers in the Forgejo Docker registry) - got a 8GB ram cheaper Hetzner VPS (you have to wait for their availability) for around 8 EUR and used that to install the CI runner - Use Netlify for hosti…

This sounds great for personal projects, but what about open source work? Or if you want to collaborate with more than a few people?

https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/

gitlab ultimate (minus support) for free, so long as licenses for all projects are OSI approved.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I'm not here to shill, but would SourceHut[1] work for you? [1] https://sourcehut.org/pricing/

This is the closest I'm finding! CI, web-based ticket submission for anyone with a site-wide login, static hosting, good price... web-based patching would be nice, good to see it in development. Some honest feedback: 10 minutes of searching and reading left my ADHD brain confused about pricing and quotas. It doesn't have any numbers for what I'm getting for $4/8/12/mo. And it took me 3 reads of that page to notice th…

I was also confused when I first found that page. The second sentence at top of the page, says:

    > [C]hoose the subscription plan most appropriate to your means — there is no difference between the subscriptions besides price.
So, you can pay just 4 USD or EUR per month to get full service. That seems like a steal.

About uptime, what level do you expect? If you Google for "Sourcehut uptime" you will find a bunch of pages with estimates. Example: https://sourcehut.org/blog/2020-07-03-how-we-monitor-our-ser...

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I don't understand why Github hasn't solved this problem with pricing updates. My understanding is they are getting hammered with LLM generated code growing their traffic by over an order of magnitude. So why not rate limit non-paying users and charge for whatever scarce resource is being consumed that is causing them to constantly fall-over? This seems like a basic economics problem.

Their problem is partly scale, but also that they are making a ton of use of AI tools, which is undermining the quality of their software. The latter can't be fixed with a price increase, they need to pull their heads out of the AI groupthink for that.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Agreed. This impatience culture is so toxic. Been down less than 30 mins.

That's cool, I mean if you'd gotten here earlier you could have said "been down less than 5 minutes" So with the "elapsed time" out of the way (now over an hour, incidentally), how about "how long will it be down?"

Ended up being down for about 4 hours. Hope you were able to get out and touch grass.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Big enterprises are on a different github deployment, so I doubt they are affected by this

In my experience, we were typically affected just like everyone else. Maybe a public company with its market cap in the billions isn't big enough.

Self host an infrastructure like real billion dollar companies.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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That's cool, I mean if you'd gotten here earlier you could have said "been down less than 5 minutes" So with the "elapsed time" out of the way (now over an hour, incidentally), how about "how long will it be down?"

Ended up being down for about 4 hours. Hope you were able to get out and touch grass.

For some people losing half a day of work is kind of important. Hope you were able to get out and find some empathy

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331481

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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In name, sure. Does it matter who you call the person directing the chaos?

I can't speak for Github's situation specifically, but I work in an org that is often cursed by "acting" leadership. People in these acting roles don't have a real mandate to do much other than follow orders, try not break anything, and keep the seat warm. They basic tread water, which in many environments is better described as drowning more slowly.

I can appreciate that, but GitHub was acquired nearly 10 years ago. Let's not sit around pretending that GitHub was some fully autonomous business unit when they had a "CEO". Maybe it was _better_, but I would still imagine it was still some form of "in name only". That's the just the nature of acquisitions.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Services like Facebook aggressively block automated activity, including AI agents. GitHub sells this as a service.

Bots or not, Facebook has orders of magnitude more traffic.

Yes, but their shapes are very different. Most users interact with a small, geographically constrained bubble. It is (comparably) an easier problem for the usage patterns of Facebook.

The app is also designed so when you open Insta, only a few images are shown, infinite scroll is there for a reason. The search page suggestions? Probably from a cache and then re-ranked quickly.

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