Great job. My advice would be to not take the frustrating and useless road of a non-profit structure for some things that you do for pleasure. The for-profit will be simpler and give you more liberties, and if, in the end, you have the good mindset that you want your creations to be shared freely, you can do it anyway. It is a state of mind.
Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
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Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS which has people working full-time and which will be officially supported on future Motorola flagships. Unfortunately even that one is missing modern replacements of outdated unsupported AOSP sample apps (like Phone and Contacts, others can be replaced without ex…
Doesn't LineageOS have modern versions of those things? I'm not sure it has to have money involved to be serious, and in fact the last time Lineage had money involved it didn't end very well.
Of course money has to be involved.. try asking them whether device X will be supported or try reporting a bug. First you'll be verbally abused by "BadDaemon" (https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon), then you won't get the answer and your bug (and patch) will just sit in the tracker, because as this incredibly kind guy will explain to you, they're volunteers, they'll fix the bug when they want to, or they will never fix the bug. They might support the device in the future, or they might not and you're not supposed to ask about that unless you want to interact with BadDaemon - this interaction is the only thing guaranteed there.
Of course there are awesome people there, like npjohnson or mikeNG, but a pack of volunteers just can't compete with big tech giants..
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty…
I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest."
Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans.
Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Climate devastation for sure.
Bug ridden? #7 on HN is "AI-Generated GitHub Copilot “Autofix” Allowed Compromise of Snowflake's Jira" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49331423
All of that defends the slur 'slopfest', which is well deserved.
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty…
I didnt say "pimeys sucks". I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest." Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans. Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Clima…
Whether it's unmaintainable depends on how big it gets. That patch is 200 lines of comprehensible code, it passes. Plus what are we comparing against for maintainability and bugs? Novice code? No code at all? Treat it as a prototype for a valuable feature instead of implying it's worse than useless.
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
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- AI code generation is way over-hyped and is only 1% capable of the feats that the advocates claim.
- AI is too expensive to use, and even if it is 100 times less expensive than a human for the same task, there is still too much cost involved.
- AI are secretly nerfed for free-software projects.
- No one has bothered to try AI on free-software phone projects yet.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty…
I didnt say "pimeys sucks". I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest." Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans. Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Clima…
> I didnt say "pimeys sucks".
I heard "nekusar sucks".
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#27The part about getting authorized to test the emergency calling capabilities is cool! I should've expected that would be a thing but I didn't ever consider it.
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't LineageOS have modern versions of those things? I'm not sure it has to have money involved to be serious, and in fact the last time Lineage had money involved it didn't end very well.
Device support is poor, no official GSI versions (with hacks, but still..) are available. Of course money has to be involved.. try asking them whether device X will be supported or try reporting a bug. First you'll be verbally abused by "BadDaemon" ( https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon ), then you won't get the answer and your bug (and patch) will just sit in the tracker, because as this incredibly kind guy will explain to…
I also, more directly, mean that they do generally have separate versions of core apps.
Anyway I'm not sure that one of the oldest and most longstanding third-party ROMs anywhere in the Android scene would fail to meet the threshold for "serious."
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty…
I didnt say "pimeys sucks". I said "Using LLMs makes a unmaintainable climate-destroying bug ridden slopfest." Does an LLM make unmaintainable code? Generally, yes. Its tremendously verbose, with structures strange for humans. Climate destroying? Depends on the LLM, but if its a US corporate based one, then yes. Just go look at the methane burners and diesel burners needed before power grid hookups years later. Clima…
Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera
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If you're looking for a daily driver the most reliable I've seen is the furi phone. Those guys are passionate and have put in a pathological amount of time to getting calls working world wide. They can only pull it off by supporting one phone that they sell.