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How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Well, I have not once found a single case where an app reacting to screenshots and controlling the process in any way was anything to me but hostile and annoying. This one does not help. It somehow is perfect example of how modern software engineering feels to go astray for me. A feature in my device working completely in benefit of the one providing said software. I wish, and wish only I can, that this trend goes aw…

I also despise this "screenshot blocking" stuff. A device listens is supposed to me, not to the apps. I want a screenshot to be a copy of the raw pixels, and an app should not know about it or have a right to know about it. Of course this is doable on open source OSes like GrapheneOS, it just sucks that you have to keep modifying the OS every time they release a new version

GrapheneOS doesn't allow for it. You'd need a rooted device to bypass screenshot blocking

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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mmm on average we’ve probably considered the photograph of a screen, and we were focused on: >To my knowledge, this is a misunderstanding. re: an OS informing an app of a user action (but didn’t downvote ya)

the other device then likely indexes it after a brief once-over by its own ai-enabled os. any crossover interactions, and it may as well be the same device. maybe some of you have not experimented enough with the theshold to have noticed yet.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Tangentially, I see a lot of people here upset that apps can react to your screenshot before it is captured. I think it is helpful to think about it as a tradeoff between freedoms: (a) the freedom to screenshot any content on your own device (b) the freedom to share content with others that cannot be screenshotted It can be annoying when DRM or privacy features block a screenshot, but I think it can also benefit the…

B is an illusion, and it seems like about 90% of the time it's used for dumb or bad purposes even if it did work.

Locks can be picked. We still make and use locks.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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B is an illusion, and it seems like about 90% of the time it's used for dumb or bad purposes even if it did work.

Locks can be picked. We still make and use locks.

If a type of lock was overwhelmingly used for bad reasons, and only worked when someone didn't cover their hands (analog pictures), I'd be arguing against that type of lock too.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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> The app knowing I took a screenshot feels adjacent to me to a keylogger. To my knowledge, this is a misunderstanding. The app does not know that you are taking a screenshot, rather iOS knows you are taking a screenshot (as it must) and is excluding an element on display that has been designated by the developer as sensitive information. This is the same technology that prevents you from accidentally screenshotting…

> This is the same technology that prevents you from accidentally screenshotting your password manager Yes, and I would say it's a bad thing that the OS tries to prevent this. > seeing “follow” on every screenshotted post is just useless noise, but a small unobtrusive platform icon is a useful reminder that the post came from Bluesky and not another very visually similar service like X(cancel) or Mastodon. I would sa…

Why is this feature bad?

As someone who develops apps for confidential conversations, making it harder for people to screenshot the confidential stuff is a feature the sending party wants, that is why they send in your app as opposed to others. It doesn’t make things impossible, just hard enough that 95% of people won’t bother to take a copy.

Same for example with disappearing audio messages on whatsapp

What I don’t like is the app being informed that I took a screenshot. The OS can hide things in screenshots without this.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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I'm confused why people are mad at Bluesky for this. Everyone stating their issues seems more related to Apple than Bluesky. So why point the finger at them?

I don’t think a significant percent of real Bluesky users actually care.

Having a follow button on the screenshot brings nothing and a logo is helpful when sharing (“hey it’s not twitter, I know it looks like it but it’s bluesky”) and looks subtle.

It’s just it’s a forum so people say things for discussions sake and get outraged by anything that a platform they don’t like is doing.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Getting your account back on reinstall is good

That's what a username and password are for. I'd rather not be forcibly tracked.

I have 200+ different passwords stored in iCloud Keychain, each 20+ characters long. How am I supposed to remember all of those?

Do you use the same password on every site? How do you deal with data breaches?

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Today I noticed that Amazon Pharmacy decided to blank out my prescription info that I was screenshotting to send to my doctor. WTF.

From the same lunacy that forces me to write my 30-something character Wi-Fi password on a "secure password field" that only shows me the last character, almost ensuring that I will make an unlimited number of typos and spend way too much time for something that should only take 30 seconds. It's not clear who it is protecting against, it does not seem to be effective at protecting against anything at all, it is activ…

That seems oddly user hostile for apple. Especially for Wi-Fi passwords, which are a very common thing to share. Android has had a feature for years that generates the password as a plaintext-encoded QR code so you can share a wifi password without the other party even needing to type it in. And at least on my pixel 9, I have a toggle on the password entry field to toggle visibility.

I don't have an iOS device handy to compare against, but it surprises me that Apple wouldn't also recognize that Wi-Fi passwords in particular are extremely common things to share.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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> The app knowing I took a screenshot feels adjacent to me to a keylogger. To my knowledge, this is a misunderstanding. The app does not know that you are taking a screenshot, rather iOS knows you are taking a screenshot (as it must) and is excluding an element on display that has been designated by the developer as sensitive information. This is the same technology that prevents you from accidentally screenshotting…

The app actually is notified after the screenshot is taken: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiapplicatio... Android does it too: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/14/features/scr...

Very interesting! Parent poster is correct, that notification does feel akin to a key logger… although I’m not sure that it applies to this bluesky feature.

So in this instance, am I right in understanding that iOS posts a notification after the user has completed a screenshot, which would make it impossible for the developer to use this notification to trigger anything that would modify that screenshot? Hence the developer’s work around?

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