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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by CompoundEyes »

infinite_spin wrote: post #31
CompoundEyes wrote: post #15

I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.

I have mine churning like butter and I'm rarely hitting a billion tokens per day, what's your workflow look like?

Pretty basic. The codex app with one conversation per project and several running simultaneously all hours. I’m going for max caching that way and it never gets lost even with compaction somehow. Each has a plan with milestones to keep up to date and a thin agents file. I check in on them in the Remote app. Use case is protocol and control reverse engineering of audio hardware. I think they must be identifying the heavy use agent sessions and cranking up their cache lives so it’s not a big deal for them.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by jimbob45 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #45
infinite_spin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have mine churning like butter and I'm rarely hitting a billion tokens per day, what's your workflow look like?

Some people just do crazy stuff. For example this now ex yc guy who said he has agents constantly scanning Sf govt apis and forming dashboards just because

Is anyone hitting caps without agents or API usage? Seems very difficult.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by jaggederest »

jm4 wrote: post #25
CompoundEyes wrote: post #15

I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.

I can’t sign up for that. I tried authorizing Codex a couple days ago. For some reason, their system says my phone number has been used for verification 3 times even though it definitely has not. I’ve had this phone number for over 20 years. OpenAI support is useless. They just keep repeating the policy without actually helping me.

Get a burner and use it? If you're spending $200/mo on something, $40 or whatever for a burner phone seems like a pretty cheap price.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by dyauspitr »

CompoundEyes wrote: post #15

I used over a billion tokens per day of gpt-5.6 sol xhigh starting last Wednesday through Sunday before reaching my reset limit. The $200 pro plan is still the best deal.

I’m exclusively using ultra and I run out in 3-4 days consistently. Those resets are great but I’ve noticed they like to cluster them at the start of the cycle, would be better if they spaced them out more.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by FL410 »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

Fable feels less cumbersome to work with, but it is SO DAMN ANNOYING with the refusals that I'm leaning more and more on Sol, and very much looking forward to GPT6. Just seems like Anthropic is trying their hardest to ruin their reputation and user experience.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by c0rruptbytes »

xmonkee wrote: post #3
Fergusonb wrote: post #2

Luna saw a huge jump after the price cut and is one of the more competitive models at the new price on openrouter. Maybe they want to see how much market they can grab with Sol? This might help but there are already cheaper models with Sol's intelligence more or less, the most notable being Grok 4.6 at $6/m which makes it a tougher sell

It's really only between Anthropic and OpenAI for many of my use cases, since I have a Zero Data Retention agreement with both. I'm not trusting random inference providers and especially not Elmo with sensitive data.

plenty of companies offer ZDR and are just as random as OpenAI and Anthropic in their age

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by rpdillon »

CompoundEyes wrote: post #51
infinite_spin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have mine churning like butter and I'm rarely hitting a billion tokens per day, what's your workflow look like?

Pretty basic. The codex app with one conversation per project and several running simultaneously all hours. I’m going for max caching that way and it never gets lost even with compaction somehow. Each has a plan with milestones to keep up to date and a thin agents file. I check in on them in the Remote app. Use case is protocol and control reverse engineering of audio hardware. I think they must be identifying the he…

A billion tokens a day is 11,000 tokens a second sustained. How many tokens per second are you getting off of GPT 5.6 Sol per project?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by sheepscreek »

rpdillon wrote: post #57
CompoundEyes wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty basic. The codex app with one conversation per project and several running simultaneously all hours. I’m going for max caching that way and it never gets lost even with compaction somehow. Each has a plan with milestones to keep up to date and a thin agents file. I check in on them in the Remote app. Use case is protocol and control reverse engineering of audio hardware. I think they must be identifying the he…

A billion tokens a day is 11,000 tokens a second sustained. How many tokens per second are you getting off of GPT 5.6 Sol per project?

Ultra mode spins up many sub-agents. On a particularly challenging task, I’ve had as many as 29 agents working at one time.

Also if you don’t specify, most end up being the same as the parent model which is pretty wasteful.

I engineered a skill that spins up Terra High agents for most sub-agents, resorting to Sol Medium for technical research and Luna High for code/in-project research tasks.

On a slightly different topic, Luna Max is incredibly capable and doesn’t use as much quota (Luna tokens are dirt cheap).

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Post by jchw »

netsec_burn wrote: post #32

After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

I think Fable's dominance is overstated. It definitely has the lead, but quantifying what that lead actually is is really hard. I'm using GPT 5.6 Sol to do some shit that I personally would consider "crazy" - low level undocumented hardware driver alchemy, reverse engineering highly obfuscated code, even a bit of screwing around with a rendering engine in Vulkan, really just about the most complex tasks I can get any model to do, and it does great. For the more advanced stuff, it definitely needs the effort bumped. But even with the effort bumped, the token usage really doesn't seem to skyrocket too badly until at least you hit xhigh and max, which really only seem to be necessary if you are doing genuine crazy stuff, so it's not that bad. I did similar stuff with Fable. In fact, I went directly from an Anthropic subscription with Fable to an OpenAI subscription with Sol, more or less, and it really felt pretty seamless. If anything, I was thrilled to realize how much I actually preferred Codex CLI, to the point where I started using it at work too.

Fable seems to be generally more impressive at outputting one-shot web apps. I'm not really saying that to try to downplay what Fable can do, it's just that if I compare the two, this is one of the few definitely noticeable areas that you can easily demonstrate. Obviously, one-shotting programs is much better as a demonstration of a model's capabilities than it is practically useful (not that it is useless, but hopefully my point is understood).

However, whatever Fable truly is better at, one thing I really like about GPT 5.6 Sol is even harder to quantify: taste. GPT 5.6 Sol outputs are still LLM outputs and they contain many things that people would probably consider "Claude-isms" for better or worse, but overall I really prefer the GPT 5.6 Sol output. I find it to be generally more tasteful. Hard to quantify, but when talking to people I've had enough people seemingly agree with me to convince me that it really is true.

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