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How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by AlexAplin »

pfraze wrote: post #95
AlexAplin wrote: post #70

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It's probably silly to make OP's judgement of any of these implementations in isolation, but you can sense a real fear about the growth (or lack thereof) inside Bluesky. Fiddling with the presented metrics (likes count getting moved ahead of reposts), promoting total user signups while being silent on collapsing DAUs. They are promising a lot at once with AI custom feeds from Attie and subreddit-style communities tha…

Your indicators that we're afraid about growth is that we're shipping features and experimental new products?

They aren't my indicators, but they read as sweat against the observable metrics being in decline. There is a perception that they want to pull on users outside of Bluesky that I don't really think exist, and I guess I share in that feeling when I believe the core still has so much basic parity missing with X et al that would demonstrate confidence in the current users you already have. Still interested to see what they ship as.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by [deleted] »

Waterluvian wrote: post #41
mikepurvis wrote: post #22

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I would happily use the Google Maps "share" feature, but I've yet to encounter any but the simplest of scenarios where it actually preserves the entire context of what I'm trying to share: the viewport, the start and destination, stops along the way, route choice, the time of day, all of it. If I'm sending a screenshot it's because I want to send exactly what I see on my screen and not have my recipient's gmaps insta…

It's of course about lock-in. In the early Web-GIS era there were a few competing but popular notation standards for sharing lat/lon/zoom/ that was meant to be human readable and compatible with any WMS or similar. Ah... to imagine a world where you could just share a coordinate string and people could open it in whatever map app/page they wanted. Geo URI is probably the closest we have today but I don't think much o…

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Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by xnx »

3form wrote: post #2

Well, I have not once found a single case where an app reacting to screenshots and controlling the process in any way was anything to me but hostile and annoying. This one does not help. It somehow is perfect example of how modern software engineering feels to go astray for me. A feature in my device working completely in benefit of the one providing said software. I wish, and wish only I can, that this trend goes aw…

There should be a layer of user control where the user can make the OS lie to the app. The app has no need to know when a screenshot or recording is happening, what the real location is, what file system contents are, etc.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

CircuitSeuss wrote: post #63
thepasswordis wrote: post #38

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It is actually astonishing to me that this is not something which can be turned off at the OS level, or as a permission setting in the app permissions. The app knowing I took a screenshot feels adjacent to me to a keylogger. Imagine how many apps are capturing that information silently. To my mind, a screenshot is something that is happening outside of the app context, the app knowing about it is a security flaw imo.

> The app knowing I took a screenshot feels adjacent to me to a keylogger. To my knowledge, this is a misunderstanding. The app does not know that you are taking a screenshot, rather iOS knows you are taking a screenshot (as it must) and is excluding an element on display that has been designated by the developer as sensitive information. This is the same technology that prevents you from accidentally screenshotting…

I think bsky's use of this malware feature is as benign as it's possible to get, but it's still a malware feature. As you point out, the real reason this exists is to enforce DRM and make your computer serve Netflix et al rather than the person who owns it.

> accidentally screenshotting your password manager;

I could not think of a more useless justification for installing malware into the OS. Okay, you've accidentally screenshotted your password manager. So what? Are you going to accidentally upload it to the internet too? I'd much rather live in a world where people who are that stupid face minor consequences for their actions than one in which all of our own computers are used against us.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by Razengan »

doc_ick wrote: post #116
Razengan wrote: post #51

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I can fucking type my username and password, thank you. And I prefer to see and choose the data an app stores on my fucking ICLOUD ACCOUNT. And fucking DELETE it when I want. There's no way to do that from an iOS device.

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Someone should follow you around saying that to you every time you complain about anything

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by -0_0- »

tchalla wrote: post #57
3form wrote: post #2

Well, I have not once found a single case where an app reacting to screenshots and controlling the process in any way was anything to me but hostile and annoying. This one does not help. It somehow is perfect example of how modern software engineering feels to go astray for me. A feature in my device working completely in benefit of the one providing said software. I wish, and wish only I can, that this trend goes aw…

Side note- The Screenshot culture itself needs to die, sorry. Many a time, a share button simply works. I don’t know why people would share a screenshot or a map instead of pin and share their location. Yes there are cases where a screenshot helps but majority cases simply is “come to this place” a which turns out to make more difficult because people apparently don’t know how to share locations with pin and share!

In the case of sharing a link I have to remember/find where it is in each app, likely scroll through a long list of messaging (and for some reason non-messaging apps) to find the correct app, select the contact, and then pray that the link sent actually works for them and contains the correct information I'm seeing (very often the link will actually direct them to a web version of the app I'm using, then put a modal popup in front of the information asking them to use the app, then either send them to the app store, or send them to the app but strip out the actual information I linked and send them to a blank map).

Screenshots are clunky and unideal, but at least they're fast and I know that they don't fail or break or send the wrong info to my contact.

If it were a one off message, this wouldn't be an issue, but if you zoom out on the issue and see you're sending up to a hundred messages a day, points of failure become major life frictions and you're trained out of using things like links in messaging apps.

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by whyrusleeping »

yesyoudo wrote: post #140
yesyoudo wrote: post #135

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Really, can’t find any on a network as vast and populated as Bluesky?? Where anyone can say anything? Maybe it’s so decentralized there is a dark web within BlueSky now! DarkSky

Firehose -> Shadowhose Now anyone can access the decentralized shadowhose from our server

“ and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.”

Re: How Bluesky draws its logo on screenshots

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Post by snailmailman »

efskap wrote: post #111
CircuitSeuss wrote: post #63

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> The app knowing I took a screenshot feels adjacent to me to a keylogger. To my knowledge, this is a misunderstanding. The app does not know that you are taking a screenshot, rather iOS knows you are taking a screenshot (as it must) and is excluding an element on display that has been designated by the developer as sensitive information. This is the same technology that prevents you from accidentally screenshotting…

The app actually is notified after the screenshot is taken: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uiapplicatio... Android does it too: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/14/features/scr...

Spotify uses this and it annoys me all the time.

If you screenshot what you are listening to, after the screenshot is taken spotify will open a full-screen popup to "share" the song you are listening to. This is quite dumb, especially since if you wanted to share a song via the screenshot, you can do so in the OS-level screenshot UI, and then you would close it and see Spotify's own similar version of the same UI. Spotify just really wants you to use their own share button so that they can track you.

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