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Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by wtp1saac »

nekusar wrote: post #6
pimeys wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a OnePlus 6 for 50 euros from eBay and I can do a ton of things with it already. Plasma is great in mobile, and what did not work I got working pretty fast together with Kimi and DeepSeek. For example here's patches to get NFC YubiKey working in Secrets app: https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc It is a work in progress but pretty easy to pick things up and fix in this age of agents...

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I don't have any reasonable thing to add here, other than it really sucks going through forums and seeing people who go out of their way to put people down. Someone is posting about happily making contribution and getting things working on a device, literally the thing you are angry about not happening; someone is tinkering and getting stuff working and showing their tinkering, and the time is spent to put some nasty put-down so you can try and coerce them out of even trying, or make someone else feel bad if they'd use LLMs in their approach.

Genuinely, I am going to log off Hacker News and not come back here. Or any social media to be honest. The lot of social media is just doing nothing but raising my blood pressure, making me miserable, and making me more afraid to actually go talk about things with people in real life. And it sucks and I ought to know better at this point.

If someone ever sees me use this site again, and scrolls my profile, this is permission to bully me off of using this website :).

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by vrinsd »

nekusar wrote: post #2

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I agree with your sentiment ; very likely the Fairphone people are restricted by NDAs from the SoC vendor who are the ultimate cause for lack of proper mainline Linux support.

The SoC vendors get Android working, get the drivers going, help do ports or modifications for major customers and hide it all behind NDAs, blobs, sometimes a bunch of hacks and all of it is closed source work.

The postmarketOS guys to their credit are trying to do "proper" mainline work which is admirable but probably frustrating, non-trivial and requires a lot of reverse engineering.

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by zb3 »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #9
zb3 wrote: post #8

PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM and volunteers have to use hacks to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? That's sad to see. This is just lame, drivers should be implemented by those who work on them.. We had Librem 5 which had real OS support that didn't have to rely on third-party volunteers, I wish they released something more modern..

> PostmarketOS can't partner with any OEM/ODM Is there any precedent to believe that such a thing is in fact possible? > and volunteers have to use hacks I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works. > to unofficially implement basic Android 1.0 functionality years after a device was released? Conversely, in other places it's far better than Android 1.0. But yes, if you can only start developing…

Murena could, Jolla could, GrapheneOS could do that too (possibly Nexphone also did but we'll find out; only GrapheneOS will give us flagship experience though). Of course these (except Jolla?) are still based on the Android model, but this itself doesn't preclude creating a non-user-hostile OS (of course Google would never certify it), proprietary black-box OEM code only assumes some Android elements, not the end user experience..

> I have terrible news for you about how the official firmware works.

I've seen some e-waste ODM (Tinno) code and their freestyle philosophy on modifying the kernel code.. however they at least have to fix this so that basic functionality works as there's QA and serious bugs will affect certification and they'd not get paid. But here if you report a bug to PostmarketOS (but well, even LineageOS), nothing will happen unless you fix it (and if you submit a patch, it will sit there forever, welcome to FOSS).

> My general understanding of the Android ecosystem is that they do write drivers, and you don't want those drivers

What's wrong with pixel drivers for instance? I'm of course not talking about those written by e-waste ODMs like Tinno who can't even release GPL kernel sources properly.

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by pizzaiolo »

zb3 wrote: post #10
nekusar wrote: post #2

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You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS which has people working full-time and which will be officially supported on future Motorola flagships. Unfortunately even that one is missing modern replacements of outdated unsupported AOSP sample apps (like Phone and Contacts, others can be replaced without ex…

AOSP is quickly becoming a dead end as Google tightens its grip on Android.

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by dnautics »

zb3 wrote: post #10
nekusar wrote: post #2

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You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS which has people working full-time and which will be officially supported on future Motorola flagships. Unfortunately even that one is missing modern replacements of outdated unsupported AOSP sample apps (like Phone and Contacts, others can be replaced without ex…

calyx os seems serious?

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by chaosharmonic »

zb3 wrote: post #10
nekusar wrote: post #2

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You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS which has people working full-time and which will be officially supported on future Motorola flagships. Unfortunately even that one is missing modern replacements of outdated unsupported AOSP sample apps (like Phone and Contacts, others can be replaced without ex…

Doesn't LineageOS have modern versions of those things?

I'm not sure it has to have money involved to be serious, and in fact the last time Lineage had money involved it didn't end very well.

Re: Fairphone 6 and PostmarketOS working main camera

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Post by [deleted] »

nekusar wrote: post #6
pimeys wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a OnePlus 6 for 50 euros from eBay and I can do a ton of things with it already. Plasma is great in mobile, and what did not work I got working pretty fast together with Kimi and DeepSeek. For example here's patches to get NFC YubiKey working in Secrets app: https://github.com/pimeys/oneplus6-yubikey-nfc It is a work in progress but pretty easy to pick things up and fix in this age of agents...

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