If only we had a myriad of heavily funded, founder-led AI-for-coding startups that could afford to store a few source files and need all that code for training anyway :)
PS: Saw Cursor’s Origin announcement a second later.
Incident with Github.com [resolved]
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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#862Almost 3 hours in and still "We are still working to identify the root cause" Can't even view diffs in the web interface! I'm out! I am willing to pay ~$5-10/mo for a reliable host I can swap as painlessly as possible. Mostly just building little static sites and little PWAs, no more than 500mb a repo and 10gb total. Need a repo with PRs and issues, where people can register free account and contribute or raise issue…
Are you paying for GitHub? Are you complaining about an outage from a product you aren't even paying for? You know the whole point of git is you don't _need_ a central server.
I don't understand the entitlement in your post here.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#863Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is Github’s core is git’s core plus extras, and thet core is fundamentally text wrangling. Youtube and Insta and Facebook and many other social media platforms handle very resource intensive media for billions of people plus bots. Increased influx from AI is not plausible when viewed from that lens.
It is though. Maybe you think they should be doing a better job but 12-24xing scale when you were already handling billions of commits is definitely understandable to me. It just does feel like they should have some way of ensuring customers, paying ones, don’t have to suffer so much.
First off, there aren’t that many developers in the world compared to consumers.
Taking every developer in the world and multiplying by 12x-24x is not a-lot compared to many consumer oriented sites.
Second, you can’t ignore the payloads, even an AI mostly text push is nothing compared to, say, 10 iPhone pictures or one moderate video.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#864Shameless plug, AI built me this cli tool to visualize gh like diffs from the terminal https://github.com/trebaud/diffcat , could prove handy in times like these lol
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#865Earlier quoted context omitted.
Git is decentralized in the sense that you can clone your repository wherever. But there is no real networked community on top. The first versions actually piggy backed on the social network that is email. Linux still is managed via email. It's social network was mailing lists. By decentralizing, they could avoid the pesky topic of having to give each other read write access to each other's git servers. But if you wa…
> That makes it the best of both worlds Assuming that everybody moves to your community (in this case the atproto one). Then the ActivityPub people ask you to join their community, and so does every new community that wants to become the new standard. That's the thing with every new social network: "You don't want to be locked into the current community that is not my community , instead you want to move to my commun…
Email indeed still works. That is in fact why I brought it up. But it still has the same deficiencies that it had before Github even existed. Which I would predict is not going to convince a lot of open source projects to suddenly start processing git patches from mailing lists now. Which is why I don't advocate that. I'm not sure I'd want to do that myself.
Tangled is kind of there as an alternative that has most of the comforts of Github but is federated and can be self hosted. And there are a lot of Bluesky users that have access to it even if they might not be aware of that yet. If enough projects switch over, their contributors might follow along. If something else shows up, more power to them. But I'm not really aware of (m)any other properly federated alternatives.
The beauty of federated protocols of course is that they can be bridged and connected in all sorts of ways. Some hybrid at proto / email based bridge could be pretty doable. And if somebody wants to expose at proto feeds as activity feeds, that's probably not too technically hard either. These things aren't actually mutually exclusive.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#866Earlier quoted context omitted.
Update 16:36 UTC - We identified the problematic component and have taken corrective actions. There are strong signs of recovery but we are still working to completely restore service, with error rates still remaining slightly elevated. We will post further updates as recovery continues. just shy of 3 hours to find the issue
"Strong signs of recovery" is a crazy way to describe the status of a computer system. Wow.
IDK, when a system is very complex — which GH certainly is — this phrasing sounds kinda fine to me? It's recovering, but not yet operating fully as intended.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#867Almost 3 hours in and still "We are still working to identify the root cause" Can't even view diffs in the web interface! I'm out! I am willing to pay ~$5-10/mo for a reliable host I can swap as painlessly as possible. Mostly just building little static sites and little PWAs, no more than 500mb a repo and 10gb total. Need a repo with PRs and issues, where people can register free account and contribute or raise issue…
Are you paying for GitHub? Are you complaining about an outage from a product you aren't even paying for? You know the whole point of git is you don't _need_ a central server. I don't understand the entitlement in your post here.
And I don't understand why some people feel they need to be the Criticism Constable.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#868Almost 3 hours in and still "We are still working to identify the root cause" Can't even view diffs in the web interface! I'm out! I am willing to pay ~$5-10/mo for a reliable host I can swap as painlessly as possible. Mostly just building little static sites and little PWAs, no more than 500mb a repo and 10gb total. Need a repo with PRs and issues, where people can register free account and contribute or raise issue…
I'm not here to shill, but would SourceHut[1] work for you?
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#869Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being the _the_ place for open source is what let them dominate the enterprise. Now that they dominate the enterprise, it'd make financial sense to put hard limits on the free tier. It's cynical but it would be foolish to lose that cash machine. It'd open them up for a competitor to slowly build up good will in open source then take them on in enterprise, but right now they are risking losing it all.
Big enterprises are on a different github deployment, so I doubt they are affected by this
In my experience, we were typically affected just like everyone else. Maybe a public company with its market cap in the billions isn't big enough.
Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]
#870There is no single product Microsoft hasn't touched and ruined. People should leave all Microsoft products en masse. I'm glad I'm no longer on Github.
What I find a bit weird is why so many people rely on it. Today we have tons of VPS providers where anyone can host their on git repo and CI/CD pipeline.
What is preventing so many people to effectively have a custom setup?