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AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by ademup »

I'll probably be downvoted to the bottom of the ocean, but I feel this needs to be said:

- Why does it matter who or what wrote a thing? And how would you know if the /content/ is worthwhile, unless you read it...

- The ability to "detect AI" is imperfect at best. 90% AI written? 5%? How would you know, unless you read it....

- If you didn't read it, then why brag about it with an "AI;DR"?

- If you are wrong, and you announce it to the world, how would it feel to someone who spent a lot of time and energy writing?

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by krona »

A similar metaphor (I think I came up with but can't remember) is the slop sandwich. You can deliver slop to me but only when wrapped in a thick layer of human intervention (which usually also means removing 50% of the slop)

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by VeninVidiaVicii »

ademup wrote: post #22

I'll probably be downvoted to the bottom of the ocean, but I feel this needs to be said: - Why does it matter who or what wrote a thing? And how would you know if the /content/ is worthwhile, unless you read it... - The ability to "detect AI" is imperfect at best. 90% AI written? 5%? How would you know, unless you read it.... - If you didn't read it, then why brag about it with an "AI;DR"? - If you are wrong, and you…

Maybe you haven’t seen enough coworkers send you pages and pages of slop.

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by whstl »

There is a light at the end of the tunnel for all the minds burned out by AI slop.

I already saw someone getting fired for only producing AI text as part of their entire output, after being unable to explain what they “wrote” in multiple situations.

And recently my company enacted a mandate that text made for humans should not be AI generated.

Sooner or later every company will start realizing that this is just people too lazy to actually work and coasting on a paycheck, at the expense of every other worker.

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by montroser »

I am pro AI, and also deeply share this sentiment.

I think sometimes people have a big long thread with Claude where they feel enthusiastic about the back and forth being very productive -- and then they genuinely want to share the summary of the conversation with their colleagues so that they can feel it too. It's not just typing a short prompt and copy/pasting the response.

But, Claude, especially Opus is so unnecessarily flowery, and smug -- and it's so identifiably characteristic.

It somehow rubs salt in the wound: "I didn't take the time to write this out in my own words, so now you get to listen to this petulant asshole mansplain it to you".

If it would get to the point, and with some humility, it would be a much different proposition.

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by perching_aix »

sega_sai wrote: post #5

If some text is AI written as a response to a much shorter prompt, then the prompt and/or sources used to make the text should be published instead (or at the very least together with the text).

"please walk our observability stacks, our IaC code and config, our cloud account, and our application codebases to gather an RCA for for any errored out request responses we've been producing this week. include a tabulated breakdown."

~actual prompt i sent in to claude last week. doing what you propose would be basically impossible / nonsensical, and further undo the entire exercise, sending all the money spent on the tokens down the toilet.

put differently, if you use agents in any actually useful manner, the principle you describe erases whatever value they did end up providing. though since the whole underlying premise is that ai never provides any value, maybe that's the intended result and is as expected. in which case, i'd argue such a desire is more than a bit demagogue.

Re: AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

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Post by rfff2 »

whstl wrote: post #25

There is a light at the end of the tunnel for all the minds burned out by AI slop. I already saw someone getting fired for only producing AI text as part of their entire output, after being unable to explain what they “wrote” in multiple situations. And recently my company enacted a mandate that text made for humans should not be AI generated. Sooner or later every company will start realizing that this is just peopl…

Yup sooner or later the new heuristic will be quality of comms measured by how short a thing is rather than how long.

Much how like essay's have a word limit - and people think you should max it out.

We will go in the opposite direction - which I'll be glad about!

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