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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#641

Go touch grass

I'll never get lack of sex used as an insult, unless you are a teenager. Is your self worth that tied to sexual activity so to use it as an insult? Is it that a rare thing to "achieve" for you to put it on a pedestal and demean others based on the lack of it?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#642

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Good. That's a gain, not a loss. We're better off without social media psyop manipulations and subscription services bolted onto our code repositories. We're better off without a giant evilcorp getting wholesale access to a large majority of the world's source code.

Could be argued to be both a gain and a loss...

"Replicants are either a benefit or a hazard."

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#643

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Codeberg isn't a viable infrastructure alternative. Its an opinionated community not a neutral host as they will delete repos based off subjective opinions on LLM usage and resource consumption. If continued hosting is dependent on moderators deciding if a project fits whatever the current philosophy is, and the whims of the moderation team, then I cannot consider it a serious choice for infrastructure. Infrastructur…

> Infrastructure should be neutral. Infrastructure can never be neutral, because infrastructure is owned and costs resources to run. All infrastructure comes with rules, be they the voting consensus of some e.V. or state-run entity, the whims of an individual on their private server, or the corporate interests of something owned by a, well, corporation. The problem isn't "neutral infrastructure". The problem is an ov…

Infrastructure can at least be content-politically neutral.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Help encourage alternatives by trying Gitlab.com or Codeberg.org or Tangled.org or others, and please star some projects there to help motivate more options. Self-promo links below if you would like to star a few of mine good for developers. https://gitlab.com/architecture-decision-record https://gitlab.com/ways-of-working https://gitlab.com/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure

GitHub being ruined after the AI hype is a shallow take imo. The root problem isn't AI, Microsoft, or Azure; It's why people keep _trusting_ centralized infra. GitLab and Codeberg can absolutely become trash, each in their own way. The solution isn't just "migrating off of GitHub"; it's "migrating to a platform that is unownable by design, not only hope". And there are no good enough decentralized alternatives to Git…

What are the serious holes?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#645

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I feel like any service that is free for open source is going to struggle if it gets significant adoption and becomes a default target for hosting LLM generated code. If even MS/GitHub cannot scale to the current demand, what hope do smaller and less well-funded alternatives have?

Rate limiting the infrastructure-hammering actions (mainly CI stuff) would be a reasonable method to handle this.

Doesn't GitHub already do this? (I don't know if they do or not; just wondering).

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Can you suggest a viable infrastructure alternative? My wishlist: free for open source and paid for closed source, able to do simple projects that are handwritten and also complex projects including AI LLM code that needs CI/CD/auditing, and hosting in the UK or EU. Aside, I donate money to Codeberg because I think Codeberg is a wonderful service with strong commitment to free open source, and because I host some lar…

https://tangled.org would love to have you :) We're hosted in the EU, and are free for open source, forever. Tangled is also designed to be federated from ground up, so you get to own your infra & data while still participating in an open network.

What is the long-term sustainability story here?

You're deliberately avoiding a network effect lock-in by being federated, you make competition trivial by giving away not only the protocol but also making your code available, and you don't even restrict commercial competition by using the MIT license rather than, say, BSL.

To me that sounds like you are deliberately starting a race-to-the-bottom competition on price with, well, everyone capable of hosting a SaaS? Heck, if you don't end up with some solid competition the whole "federated code" USP doesn't play out. To me that doesn't exactly scream "good return on my €3,8M seed round". Am I missing a brilliant plan here, or should we expect a rug pull a few years down the line?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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post #362

Help encourage alternatives by trying Gitlab.com or Codeberg.org or Tangled.org or others, and please star some projects there to help motivate more options. Self-promo links below if you would like to star a few of mine good for developers. https://gitlab.com/architecture-decision-record https://gitlab.com/ways-of-working https://gitlab.com/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure

Codeberg isn't a viable infrastructure alternative. Its an opinionated community not a neutral host as they will delete repos based off subjective opinions on LLM usage and resource consumption. If continued hosting is dependent on moderators deciding if a project fits whatever the current philosophy is, and the whims of the moderation team, then I cannot consider it a serious choice for infrastructure. Infrastructur…

Infra should be immutable piece that is certainly not influenced by someone power tripping or being butt-hurt by conflicting alignment on worldview issues. These things should be completely detached from each other, and infra should be neutral with technical guarantees it cannot be cut off aside of warfare acts.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I recently analyzed my commit history. Last month, I made more commits than my entire 2025 combined.

How much more value did those commits create than in 2025? But that discards my point, which is that you should probably have been prevented from pushing all those to github unless you were paying them for it, but you weren't because the executives running github can't admit that AI is bad for their platform.

  How much more value did those commits create than in 2025?
We have 2x fewer developers now than in 2025. Yet, the amount of features and bug fixes we're pushing is something like 5x.

So probably 10x more value is my guess for my entire team.

If you mean translating that into revenue, I'm not sure. Our product is better than ever with features a much bigger team couldn't dream of building before. Stability has also been better with fewer bugs, issues, downtime. When there are bugs, it gets fixed far quicker than before.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I’m willing to give them a break as I’m assuming they have a lot of scaling problems due to the influx of LLM assisted coding. But maybe I’m wrong?

> scaling problems due to the influx of LLM assisted coding You mean people pushing LLM assisted coding, or github's own coders pushing LLM assisted code to production ? :-). I am more inclined to think that it is the second, but if the reason is the first, what is particular hard to scale ? It's not like everybody is vide-coding into a single repository, so I would expect that most of the load would naturally be sca…

> You mean people pushing LLM assisted coding, or github's own coders pushing LLM assisted code to production ? :-).

Why not both?

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