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it kinda does unless he is straightforward about his financial incentives
Lol. If he included everything you'd claim he needs to sound honest you'd criticize him for being long winded instead.
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#382Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're so familiar with Amodei's history, why don't you share what concretely you object to?
You mean besides the fear mongering, the clear attempts at regulatory capture, articles like this: https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-benevolent-artificial-... and the linked tweet here you need more to convince you that this person may not have our general best interests at heart? Between Musk, Altman, Schmidt, Amodei, Gates and a bunch of others I have a really hard time figuring out who is the least ethical. Pr…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175827
Fwiw whenever you come close to commiting a "HN capital offence" I am biased against the mods :)The sbf vibes are on the nose. Remember that it was a big deal that sbf bought into Anthropic, and many if not most Anthropic employees are EA, the tribe of people I'd rather call "rationalizists". The main thing they rationalize, is of course themselves taking on power and what sbf made famous as uh the linear approach to risk
Between Altman and Amodei, I'd say that Amodei is the more dangerous just because he seems even more "reasonable" to nonjerks. You should ask the mods which one of the two they think are more reasonable. It's clear to lobbyists and politicians --- people familiar with the human jungle that is DC--- that Amodei is weirder, though.
I think I have a good metric for who is least ethical. Which one on your list is most unlikely to write good satire (or most likely to write unintentional self-satire?)
I'd say its Schmidt, followed by Amodei, and then Musk. See Musk on SNL. I think Gates had some TV appearances where he was reasonably funny, almost self-deprecating.
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#383I genuinely think Dario is a well intentioned, intelligent dude, but I think him and Anthropic have a huge PR problem and are really out of touch with how they're perceived. Anthropic in particular has developed this almost Orwellian like veil of condescending rhetoric that on the surface suggests they're looking out for you while underneath they're taking actions that suggest they do not trust you, Mr/Mrs Ordinary P…
I don’t even think they have a PR problem, if their revenue numbers are correct. Sure, maybe in the court of public opinion, but time and time again it shows how it can be fixed.
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#384Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're so familiar with Amodei's history, why don't you share what concretely you object to?
You mean besides the fear mongering, the clear attempts at regulatory capture, articles like this: https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-benevolent-artificial-... and the linked tweet here you need more to convince you that this person may not have our general best interests at heart? Between Musk, Altman, Schmidt, Amodei, Gates and a bunch of others I have a really hard time figuring out who is the least ethical. Pr…
I see the conflict of interest of course, but so far I have not seen anything that convinced me Amodei works towards any other goal than benefit for humanity as a whole, like he claims.
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> Where are the amazing digital products/stuff? I've done amounts of refactoring and fixes and written tooling that just wouldn't have happened before. I'm not sure what amazing new stuff y'all expect but the amount of technical debt in my projects is actually going down, cause I can finally get good enough test coverage, including E2E/load tests that actually prove whether the software works and scales or doesn't -…
For that you need a management that actually lets you use the token budget for stuff like refactoring, fixes, and test coverage. Unfortunately I'd wager that's an exception and the rule is (still) that to most managers LLMs are "feature machine go BRRRRT", leaving even less time for anything else besides pushing out features at a breakneck speed because you're supposed to be 10x more efficient now.
Implement features at a viable pace and drown any unrealistic expectations in reports of CVE fixes - usually a version bump of dependencies, but quite often also some migration work within the app; write tools to make that work visible like I did with scanning and reports, and enjoy living without having to complain about how you can’t keep up with releases while letting your software rot until it’s a multi-year migration.
Alongside that, do the same for test coverage as well because it’s the humans that have been sloppy for years and didn’t work enough on the test harnesses or good enough coverage, introduce Testcontainers and load testing tools and anything else that makes sense.
Use their money for tokens to build software that is actually good and make your life easier and ensure that their shortsightedness won’t sink the product on a few years.
Of course you could also get fired if they’re stupid, but then I don’t imagine that working for those that are delusional is exactly great either, unless the goal is explicitly to make slop to get investor money in which case the whole thing will probably need to be rewritten from scratch anyways so who cares.
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I don’t even think they have a PR problem, if their revenue numbers are correct. Sure, maybe in the court of public opinion, but time and time again it shows how it can be fixed.
Revenue is not profit, their competitors are catching up, and they have a lot of debt.
And we’ve seen unprofitability not being an issue for a lot of companies. Markets function in funny days nowadays.
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And maybe don't allow the military to use your AI WHEN YOU CAN'T TELL WHETHER IT WAS INVOLVED IN THE KILLING OF HUNDREDS OF SCHOOL CHILDREN
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#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean besides the fear mongering, the clear attempts at regulatory capture, articles like this: https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-benevolent-artificial-... and the linked tweet here you need more to convince you that this person may not have our general best interests at heart? Between Musk, Altman, Schmidt, Amodei, Gates and a bunch of others I have a really hard time figuring out who is the least ethical. Pr…
Careful here. This comes close to precisely what dang thinks is a bannable offense https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175827 Fwiw whenever you come close to commiting a "HN capital offence" I am biased against the mods :) The sbf vibes are on the nose. Remember that it was a big deal that sbf bought into Anthropic, and many if not most Anthropic employees are EA, the tribe of people I'd rather call "rationalizist…
If you ask me, SBF ran an obvious scam in a sector that is as a whole a scam.
With Anthropic's product, I experience a real benefit today.
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#389Just want to say, this comment section on this website would have been unthinkable a few years ago. It’s wild: all the engineers have developed class consciousness. I wonder how that happened? Anyway, it’s fun to watch, but remember to stay sane guys, be aware of the pendulum dynamics.
Wild indeed. It seems like a couple of years ago the HN and LW commentariat had a lot in common, but they’ve drifted so far in opposite directions that they look more like opposing political parties today.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9RL9MuGZjzm4q3gKG/what-just-...
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#390> I think it is fundamentally a crisis of trust. I think that ordinary people don’t trust companies, governments, or the tech industry and always suspect that we are cooking up some new way to screw them over. [...] > I don’t think that a glitzy marketing campaign with a positive spin (which some have advocated that Anthropic do) is the way to win back that trust — at this point, saying that AI will cure cancer is mo…
No snark here from my side, just curious about your vision - which concrete actions by Anthropic could improve trust for the concerns you listed?