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RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by yencabulator »

wooben wrote: post #28
inktype wrote: post #18

RustDesk still does not support encrypted connections when self hosting: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714

Your statement is not entirely accurate. This only applies when using Direct IP Access on local networks, which is off by default. Their justification and invitation to PRs is the final comment [1] on the issue you linked. Why are you leaving this information out of your comment? 1 - https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714#issuecommen...

You know what's a really bad look on you? Deleting the issue.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by yencabulator »

LoganDark wrote: post #4

RustDesk should fix their password requirements: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/2888

And they deleted this discussion too, along with the issue mentioned earlier! Really bad look.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49302135

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by wolrah »

anakaine wrote: post #161
wolrah wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> RustDesk still does not support encrypted connections when self hosting Not true at all. RustDesk connections are fully encrypted even when using a self-hosted server. What is not supported are encrypted direct endpoint-to-endpoint connections not going through a server at all, because that's not a use case RustDesk is designed for. The feature is intended for testing, which is why it's disabled altogether by defau…

So, to have end to end encryption you need to do something like: Client -- Relay Server -- Host That's certainly less than ideal since many remote desktop session will not be using a middle-age server but rather be direct between client and host.

To establish a connection between client and remote host, you are expected to go through a coordination server which you trust, that can be either the official one or your own self-hosted instance. Your client and the remote host will then attempt to directly connect if possible, only actually sending the display and input streams through a relay server if a direct connection is impossible due to NAT or whatever else.

The use case where encryption is not supported is directly connecting by IP address, which is not the intended use for this software. It's an open source analog to TeamViewer, not a replacement for VNC or RDP. The direct connect functionality is there primarily for testing, which is why it's entirely disabled by default and the option to turn it on is buried at the bottom of a dialog that requires elevated privileges to access. If your use case is focused on those direct connections, RustDesk is not aimed at you.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by wolrah »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #32
wooben wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your statement is not entirely accurate. This only applies when using Direct IP Access on local networks, which is off by default. Their justification and invitation to PRs is the final comment [1] on the issue you linked. Why are you leaving this information out of your comment? 1 - https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714#issuecommen...

It may only apply to Direct IP Access, but isn't that what many would expect (not trusting middleman to be secure?)

The specific purpose of RustDesk is to have the middleman making remote access across networks easier. It's intended to replace TeamViewer, LogMeIn, etc. not VNC or RDP.

You either pick a middleman you want to trust or you run one of your own, if you don't want that or need the features if offers RustDesk is not for you.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by noahbp »

kelvie wrote: post #149
noahbp wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From personal experience, Moonlight is pretty slow and high latency. Even Microsoft's RDP is better.

I don't understand how this can be, you can play competitive games over moonlight/sunshine, and I really don't recall being able to come close to that latency on RDP (though I haven't tried in about a decade)

I had a weird setup: a rented airgpu.com machine, and I connected from my M1 MacBook Pro.

Re: RustDesk now supports true unattended remote access on Wayland

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Post by jcelerier »

theultdev wrote: post #80
jcelerier wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so without tailscale or any other intermediary turn service how does my computer behind a NAT connect to another computer behind another NAT

by using something like iroh. basically an embedded tailscale.

but it just moves the dependency from tailscale's relay servers to iroh's relay servers. Says it right there in your article:

> The public relays we run have seen more than 200 million endpoints created, in the last 30 days alone

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