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GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gemini is still my top choice within production software for typical data extraction from unstructured data. Gemini Flash Lite feels like a cheat code for speed, and it's really cheap. Some other Chinese models are also fast and cheap, but a harder sell in a U.S. production environment.

Yeah Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite is really good. Which Chinese models can you recommend?

Hi, I’m the author of this blog. It depends on how strong of a model you need, but in general, Qwen is easily the best among the Chinese models right now.

Over the last two weeks, Qwen released two new models. Qwen3.8-Max is totally insane, but it’s only available through the Alibaba Cloud API. I wrote a similar blog covering Qwen3.8-Max: [https://blog.roboflow.com/qwen3-8-max/](https://blog.roboflow.com/qwen3-8-max/)

If you’re looking for something you can run locally, Qwen3.8-27B might be a great option. On Friday, I did a quick comparison between Qwen3.8-Max and Qwen3.8-27B: [https://x.com/skalskip92/status/2088411215441621469?s=20](https://x.com/skalskip92/status/2088411215441621469?s=20)

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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post #41

Ironically, the pill counting example selected to showcase "the best vision model" can be easily solved with OpenCV template matching, a technology created 25 years ago.

I'm sure a typical frontier model would also be happy to write that opencv script for you, and it would do it well. That is certainly pretty far from what was possible 25 years ago.

It 5..10 lines of code. :)

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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post #64
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you actually read the frontend design skill? It’s placebo at best. Very short and barely focused on design: https://github.com/anthropics/skills/blob/main/skills/fronte...

Have you actually tried using it?

Of course. It’s OK, but it tends to generate very cliched “AI” UIs with little originality. Despite the skill spending a lot of time coaching the model into avoiding that!

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

#95

Where are the Qwen benchmarks in this? I would be more interesting to see how Qwen performs.

Hi! I’m the author of this blog. I regularly benchmark new VLM releases. You can check the results for Qwen3.8-Max and Qwen3.8-27B here: https://playground.roboflow.com/evals

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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post #49

So far I haven't seen a single model succeeding at transcribing sheet music, but I just tested it again with 5.6 Sol and it nailed the small test case. Fluently reading music requires multiple years of training for most people, but I feel like accurately following the horizontal lines trips up vision models in particular.

For a bespoke model that transcribes sheet music images well, check out our system at Soundslice: https://www.soundslice.com/sheet-music-scanner/

It's not an LLM, it's a custom thing we built. Here's a comprehensive list of support for various notation glyphs: https://www.soundslice.com/help/en/creating/pdf-import/294/s...

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

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Fuck ack. I'm working on a new benchmark that combines strong visual requirements with tool and coding requirements. I haven't even tested Sol yet, but between Sonnet, Terra & Luna I already see much better results from OpenAI's models. I'm not releasing anything yet as I still have issues in my harness that need to be fixed.

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

#98

Penny sample shown looks like failed EXIF orientation registered by the model/harness. The coins are correctly marked, it's rotated 90 degrees.

Hi! I’m the author of this blog. I had the same intuition, but together with the OpenAI team we figured out that the issue was image resolution. GPT-5.6 doesn’t handle large images well.

Re: GPT 5.6 Sol is the best "vision" model OpenAI ever released

#100
post #7

In the third vision bench result, Sol is 100% correct but the expected has 1 error. Seems like an oversight. In the next bench, Sol looks like it’s correct again but the bboxes are rotated 90 degrees for some reason.

Hi! I’m the author of this blog and benchmark. You’re right. I’ll fix it in the ground-truth dataset. Thanks for pointing it out.
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