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How is github being down losing you guys money?
If you pay developers x money / day and one of their core tools is down for n hours during the day and they spend their money on HN instead that's pretty straight forward to calculate.
I'm self-hosting Gitea and Woodpecker CI for least 6 years, alongside my own docker and pypi registries. Adding x86 and ARM runners, it costs me circa $30/month to run the whole thing, and I am reasonably sure that I could make the whole thing scale at a lower cost per user than what Github charges. I am seriously, 100%, contemplating the idea of offering consulting for migrating companies and projects out of Github.…
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Boomer here as well, but I'd add that trusting your own org for critical infra usually also ends in tears. Most everything in IT involves failure, including in well designed systems designed by great engineers. I worked for a few years in an exceedingly well capitalised place which ran everything in their own data centers, money no object, with a truck parked somewhere, ready to go, with a smaller version of our crit…
At this point github is barely managing one nine.
Can anyone shed some light why GitHub is having so many problems lately?
Github's, COO Kyle Daigle, claimed that the number of commits has increased 14x since last year. So shear scale has something to do with it. I don't know of too much software already operating a planetary scale that could easily absorb a 14x bump in a year.
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Different set of ideologies completely, not an alternative.
An alternative set of ideologies is part of what makes it ... an alternative! I mean, that plus better uptime.
See: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
We're starting to have the conversation of "do we need to replace GitHub as our CI/CD pipeline?" No idea if/when we decide to pull that bandaid but I think once we can't merge a hot fix into main because of GH being down, it'll be a big org push to replace it. What's everyone else using? Self hosted Gitlab? Gitea?
Frontier labs and global saas heavyweights run CI through us, plus a crop of open source tooling like Bazel, vLLM, Firecracker, Rails, Ray, Sorbet and Rust.
Shopify, Uber, Airbnb, Canva stresstested the platform ten years ago for scaling issues.
You need to take a little time to design upfront and take advantage of dynamically programmable primitives. It isn't the same ease/convenience as Actions. Bit more available though.
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For the amount of money enterprises are paying to GitHub, there is a reasonable (and contractual) expectation of uptime. I don't think my boss would find it to fun if I bailed work to hit the gym just because GitHub was down.
Yes, but GitHub enterprise has different uptime ( https://us.githubstatus.com/posts/dashboard ) and actually does have an SLA. Edit: it seems GHE is also affected by the outage and isn't much better.
There is no separate enterprise platform unless you buy their self hosted server product.