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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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This is starting to feel like Twitter. For a variety of reasons, we had a centralized place where everyone of a particular set of persuasions could connect, and this had outsize benefits for the community as a whole. That place is becoming untenable, and with the loss of goodwill and stability, the community’s started to dissipate. But there isn’t one obvious transition candidate, so the diaspora is finding itself sp…

At least this will wake up more people to the existing alternative efforts such as Forgejo and its progress with federation protocol.

https://forgejo.org/2023-01-10-answering-forgejo-federation-...

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#362
Help encourage alternatives by trying Gitlab.com or Codeberg.org or Tangled.org or others, and please star some projects there to help motivate more options.

Self-promo links below if you would like to star a few of mine good for developers.

https://gitlab.com/architecture-decision-record

https://gitlab.com/ways-of-working

https://gitlab.com/coordinated-vulnerability-disclosure

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an overly optimistic view of things. For a lot of us GitHub is critical infrastructure, which if it goes down loses us and our customers money.

How is github being down losing you guys money?

If you pay developers x money / day and one of their core tools is down for n hours during the day and they spend their money on HN instead that's pretty straight forward to calculate.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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post #145

I recall reading years ago that cloud services were expected to run with a reliability of 3 or 4 '9's and that if they didn't competing services would quickly overtake them in adoption. The industry was supposed to be that cut throat. Has big tech reached a similar status like banks in that they are "too big to fail" i.e. when they do fail we all just look the other way and say: "well everyone else is out too". Didn'…

https://vimeo.com/355556831

We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Which means they have a pricing problem. Rate limit non-paying users.

They already do

I can't check the commit history of some OSS projects without hitting a rate limit if I'm not signed in. My request rate is one request per (arbitrary time interval) at that point.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#366

What is the best Github alternative that has something like Github Actions? What is the easiest to switch to? I do not want to switch but it is having too much of an impact on me. It is time to give up on Github. This is just too much.

I’m hosting my own https://tangled.org knot and spindle, and also hosting and building my own Frontend browser for https://forgejo.org looking forward to open sourcing it in the future for others to enjoy.

For people who want a similar experience today, I’d recommend trying Codeberg (An official instance of Forgejo) though. However, keep in mind they voted in July to ban mostly AI generated repositories. You can read about that here: https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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To everyone who is angry: calm down. Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Unless you have a emergency hotfix (you don’t), go hit the gym or walk outside. If a work tool going down triggers you enough mentally to start angrily ranting online, it’s a sign you need to chill out and focus more on your health

> due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code

hey bud your bias is showing

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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I'm self-hosting Gitea and Woodpecker CI for least 6 years, alongside my own docker and pypi registries. Adding x86 and ARM runners, it costs me circa $30/month to run the whole thing, and I am reasonably sure that I could make the whole thing scale at a lower cost per user than what Github charges. I am seriously, 100%, contemplating the idea of offering consulting for migrating companies and projects out of Github.…

Doing the same thing, and I'd join you in this consulting haha. It's a breath of fresh air to know what your CI is actually doing

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#369
post #286

GitHub, Charles Schwab, Microsoft Teams, Copilot, New York State, AWS, Progressive, Azure, Microsoft Store, Cloudflare, ADP, Google Sheets, E-Trade, Fidelity... Did Mythos break out of it's container? https://downdetector.com/

Maybe it's this one: https://downdetector.com/status/windows-azure/

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#370
post #145

I recall reading years ago that cloud services were expected to run with a reliability of 3 or 4 '9's and that if they didn't competing services would quickly overtake them in adoption. The industry was supposed to be that cut throat. Has big tech reached a similar status like banks in that they are "too big to fail" i.e. when they do fail we all just look the other way and say: "well everyone else is out too". Didn'…

A lot of it is inertia I think. I hear people saying that they "just use so-and-so for version control" but really we all have tons of CI/CD build and test pipelines, config, business processes etc in Github (rightly or wrongly).
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