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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#342

The LLM code influx is not the problem. Microsoft mismanagement is: https://damrnelson.github.io/github-historical-uptime/

I was there before 2018, their reliability was never that good.

I still remember that they launched GitHub Actions in 2018 and back then I was thinking: They can't even make the website reliable, surely this will only cause them more problems.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#343
post #99

This is starting to feel like Twitter. For a variety of reasons, we had a centralized place where everyone of a particular set of persuasions could connect, and this had outsize benefits for the community as a whole. That place is becoming untenable, and with the loss of goodwill and stability, the community’s started to dissipate. But there isn’t one obvious transition candidate, so the diaspora is finding itself sp…

Good. That's a gain, not a loss. We're better off without social media psyop manipulations and subscription services bolted onto our code repositories. We're better off without a giant evilcorp getting wholesale access to a large majority of the world's source code.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#344

To everyone who is angry: calm down. Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Unless you have a emergency hotfix (you don’t), go hit the gym or walk outside. If a work tool going down triggers you enough mentally to start angrily ranting online, it’s a sign you need to chill out and focus more on your health

> Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Which means they have a pricing problem. Rate limit non-paying users.

No. It means they have a capacity problem.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#345

To everyone who is angry: calm down. Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Unless you have a emergency hotfix (you don’t), go hit the gym or walk outside. If a work tool going down triggers you enough mentally to start angrily ranting online, it’s a sign you need to chill out and focus more on your health

That's an overly optimistic view of things. For a lot of us GitHub is critical infrastructure, which if it goes down loses us and our customers money.

How is github being down losing you guys money?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#346
post #225

Funny enough, I received a marketing email from GitHub during the outage with the following subject: "What if every pull request you started actually shipped"

Huh, they usually do? I'm not a full-time developer though so I'm surely biased towards doing the obvious quick fixes or already-discussed things, but discussing how to solve a problem before throwing something at the wall seems like the normal thing to do for me Or is their point about abandoned projects where the dev never clicks release after merging, or even never merges?

The point is you can't ship shit during an outage.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#347
post #99

This is starting to feel like Twitter. For a variety of reasons, we had a centralized place where everyone of a particular set of persuasions could connect, and this had outsize benefits for the community as a whole. That place is becoming untenable, and with the loss of goodwill and stability, the community’s started to dissipate. But there isn’t one obvious transition candidate, so the diaspora is finding itself sp…

I think that, exactly how 95% of the people that left Twitter eventually returned, we will see a similar outflux of people from Github and the vast majority of them will quietly be back in a few months.

I'd say about a third of software engineers whose blogs I stumble upon and end up liking aren't active on twitter. Their accounts typically have nothing posted for 3-4 years, but they're active on bluesky or mastodon.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

#350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just in the US. I have ONE European client... ONE of dozens who use GitHub. EVERY other client I've ever worked with used their own gitforge or at least bitbucket...

Selection bias then as the majority of European companies are for sure not hosting their own Forgejo or GitForge.

Where I work we're hosting our own gitlab instance and the previous company I worked for hosted their own Bitbucket. For most developers I know it's either a self hosted git platform instance or Github enterprise.
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