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Stripe to Buy OpenRouter for $7B

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Re: Stripe to Buy OpenRouter for $7B

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Post by VladVladikoff »

rafaelmn wrote: post #21
m1ck wrote: post #12

The harness is the router. I don't understand this.

You don't have to spread your payment info to 10 different places ? You pay a fee for centralized API credits Payment processing for tokens - sounds like the thing Stripe does.

Why do you need 10? One or two fallbacks is sufficent. Maybe my workloads are vastly different than yours but I’m not a huge fan of having to switch between models. Even within a single model determinism sucks, debugging why something worked yesterday and doesn’t work today because a model switch is not fun. I can’t imagine the pain of having our services flip randomly between 10 different models.

Re: Stripe to Buy OpenRouter for $7B

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Post by latchkey »

Taikhoom10 wrote: post #24
latchkey wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a wrapper that collects a bunch of data. Think of this purchase like Zucks investment in ScaleAI.

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That's just one take on the situation. What makes up that bundle is what I'm referring to. They aren't just blindly buying companies. Why exactly is OR interesting to Stripe?

Re: Stripe to Buy OpenRouter for $7B

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Post by pjankiewicz »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #23
rafaelmn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to spread your payment info to 10 different places ? You pay a fee for centralized API credits Payment processing for tokens - sounds like the thing Stripe does.

Why do you need 10? One or two fallbacks is sufficent. Maybe my workloads are vastly different than yours but I’m not a huge fan of having to switch between models. Even within a single model determinism sucks, debugging why something worked yesterday and doesn’t work today because a model switch is not fun. I can’t imagine the pain of having our services flip randomly between 10 different models.

It is changing so often that to keep the costs and quality at a pareto level you need to experiment with a lot of different providers. And the pain you are describing should be a normal process in AI. I use model pools where the tasks are optimized for multiple AI providers. For example I was experimenting with GPT Luna and it turned out that the model is good but tool shy so I had to improve the instructions. Now this model is my main model for the chat in my app. Next week it can be a different model.

Re: Stripe to Buy OpenRouter for $7B

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Post by trollbridge »

beambot wrote: post #17
root-parent wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The acquisition makes no sense, as most LLM providers only reason not to forbid them right now, is because they were funded by exactly the same VCs as the providers. Go check. Of all the no moats they are the example of no moat . Its seconds switch to another router if even that is tolerated. And lets not even talk, the lack of compliance in an enterprise environment, and as they defer to providers on that... But the…

> And lets not even talk, the lack of compliance in an enterprise environment, and as they defer to providers on that... A middleman that adds compliance & regulation while skimming a slice off the top for themselves: You just described credit cards - stripe's core business...

Very much the same line of business as Amazon Bedrock except OpenRouter gives more options (choice of where hosted, data retention options and so on).
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