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Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#121

Technology is not cool anymore.

Technology was not cool, it was for us the nerds. The nerds started making money, so the money people got into it.

But it was never cool. Having money can fake being cool though, at least for a while.

Now the capitalists who control the technology are in bed with the government, it certainly is uncool. But in a totally different way than before.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#122
Unless you are cheerleader hoping to eventually be a CEO. Why would you particularly ever like this class of people? Or in financialised economy ever trust them to do anything but to maximise some metric affecting the price of the stock or whatever.

And distrust is reasonable stance for most people. Goals of financial system don't most of time align with well being of everyone in the population.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#123

I'm not that young anymore but when I hear Dario Amodei speak and gesticulate enthusiastically about how AI will soon make my job redundant, from a positio of someone who can retire now and who benefits from AI possibly replacing workers, it's very hard to like him.

Lets suppose everyone in the world miraculously loses their jobs to AI, who is paying for it? How? What are they selling? What stops the rest of humanity from turning data centers into a pile of ash? These people are so disconnected from reality.

The rich people sell to each other and AI corps while maintaining a strong "freedom" force to ensure that their "rights" are protected. Injury to a data-center will be considered an act of vile terrorism and punished with life-detention employment (aka slave labour) or the relife correction (if your organs are good for farming).

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Lets suppose everyone in the world miraculously loses their jobs to AI, who is paying for it? How? What are they selling? What stops the rest of humanity from turning data centers into a pile of ash? These people are so disconnected from reality.

I think they believe that AI will account for nearly all production, and jobs will no longer be necessary. At the very least, it's going to be tumultuous.

They "believe" that for the sake of their stock options and IPOs, not out of any actual belief.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#125
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You also just explained how people fearing that AI will take all jobs are equally disconnected from reality. Although in less joyful manner.

what kind of bargaining power will you have with "well someone must consume!"?

All of the power? Without consumers, no business has any reason to exist.

You can do business without workers, investors, shareholders. You can't do business without consumers.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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what kind of bargaining power will you have with "well someone must consume!"?

All of the power? Without consumers, no business has any reason to exist. You can do business without workers, investors, shareholders. You can't do business without consumers.

so how will there be any other class than a basic UBI class that gets the bare minimum, with no way to climb the ladder in any way?

why would businesses need everybody to participate when a specific portion of people are enough?

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

It's just Neo Luddite stuff... we don't have to accept the current status quo. Good lord I'd love it if all my needs were met by the abundance of the planet and I could spend my days working on projects I liked and exploring. Why can't anyone see beyond their job?

The Luddites were rational.

Just because something is inevitable doesn't mean the people whose family's lives get fucked up along the way are somehow assholes or unrealistic for demanding that we handle it in a more controlled/extended way that doesn't cause so much misery.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Whilst you can argue that services may have improved in some respects, the action towards resolution to problems is carefully monitored to help as least as possible and insulate accountability within a blanket of 'help' agents.

Infuriating as it is, this is still better than with the bad old days of taxis, which usually had even worse resolution and accountability. It sounds like people don't quite grasp just how bad the taxi experience was.

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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A lot of tech recently has just made things worse. Uber made the taxi experience way worse and less predictable. Now, I can’t just walk out of a bar, get into a clean taxi and go home, I have to fiddle with an app, wait, wave trying to identify “my” ride, then hope it’s clean and safe. It’s a nightmare compared to what we had before. Uber eats made food delivery significantly worse and more expensive. It used to be t…

I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence here. But I find it difficult to think of a worse example you could have picked than taxis. For all Uber's many faults, the taxi companies were worse. Hell they're still worse. Are you old enough to remember the bad old days?

> Are you old enough to remember the bad old days?

I'm old enough to remember them. I very much preferred the "bad old days" over bad new days of ride-sharing services.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Lets suppose everyone in the world miraculously loses their jobs to AI, who is paying for it? How? What are they selling? What stops the rest of humanity from turning data centers into a pile of ash? These people are so disconnected from reality.

The rich people sell to each other and AI corps while maintaining a strong "freedom" force to ensure that their "rights" are protected. Injury to a data-center will be considered an act of vile terrorism and punished with life-detention employment (aka slave labour) or the relife correction (if your organs are good for farming).

And you'll still have to pay rent or property taxes, and if you don't pay rent then armed thugs will come to "your" house and kick you out of it. Despite the fact it's literally impossible to pay because there are no jobs.
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