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Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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As a young person, the data I would like to see on this topic are how AI/tech CEOs compare to CEOs on other industries. I would be surprised if Nadella polled significantly lower than the median non-tech CEO, based on gen Z's opinion of CEOs.

According to Blind he did with only 30% (2023) https://www.reddit.com/r/Infographics/comments/1961mql/best_...

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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post #7

How oblivious are people to the world that they think this is somehow strange or hard to believe? Why would they like any of the tech CEOs, or CEOs in general? It's hard to see why basically anyone would at this point.

Because the products these companies produce are extremely popular, and people benefit from them.

Well, we are talking about the CEOs, not the companies.

And these CEOs have very little to do with creating and improving said companies' products. The repeated outlandish claims kind of definitely broke this illusion.

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I… yes, he is. He wasn’t born when this was put in motion by Turing in 1950, and he quit OpenAI to try to stick to their original mission, which was exclusively and ambitiously to prevent what most (who cared to look at it) assumed was inevitable. AI isn’t a new iPhone moment, it’s a fire moment. Dario Amodei didn’t bring it into existence, physics did — we’re just slowly working out the cognitive science for the fir…

Absolutely! I mean, they didn't start the fire so why are we mad at them for fueling the fire?? It's not their fault!!

Anthropic has not been “fueling the fire”. They’re the reason most of y’all even know there’s a fire.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I… yes, he is. He wasn’t born when this was put in motion by Turing in 1950, and he quit OpenAI to try to stick to their original mission, which was exclusively and ambitiously to prevent what most (who cared to look at it) assumed was inevitable. AI isn’t a new iPhone moment, it’s a fire moment. Dario Amodei didn’t bring it into existence, physics did — we’re just slowly working out the cognitive science for the fir…

Terribly interesting that being a messenger these days is so lucrative. $15.5b net worth, while definitely not at the top of the food chain, is really living in this day and age, wouldn't you say? Simply wonderful to be just aligned so nicely in the progression of the universe, because all this was decided long, long ago after all, to just be leaving us all a kind note that everything humanity has achieved thus far i…

  When the crash happens after the circular ponzi scheme hanging all its risk on the public breaks apart
Any day now, we’ll all realize that the scientists were wrong all along, and were just lying to scare us. Any day now! Ed Zitron has proof that it’ll happen before the end of 2023, even.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#115

I'm not that young anymore but when I hear Dario Amodei speak and gesticulate enthusiastically about how AI will soon make my job redundant, from a positio of someone who can retire now and who benefits from AI possibly replacing workers, it's very hard to like him.

TBH the promise of many technologies has been making work redundant. But they used to be more diplomatic about it.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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post #23
post #7

How oblivious are people to the world that they think this is somehow strange or hard to believe? Why would they like any of the tech CEOs, or CEOs in general? It's hard to see why basically anyone would at this point.

Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

The anti-tech has been there for a while.

In my opinion, the moment tech perception flipped from "it's kind of cool" to "I don't trust it" was E. Snowden in 2013.

For more than one decade now, we have progressively switched to treating tech more like a cigarette addiction we should keep in check (even if we don't succeed) rather than the qualify of life improvement, communication & entertainment tool it could be.

And tech companies don't care anymore. We went from Google's "don't be evil" to CEO's clamoring they will maybe make us jobless, and potentially kill us all, with Uber & Amazon's run of the mill human exploitation in the middle for good measure.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#117

I'm not that young anymore but when I hear Dario Amodei speak and gesticulate enthusiastically about how AI will soon make my job redundant, from a positio of someone who can retire now and who benefits from AI possibly replacing workers, it's very hard to like him.

Man, I see this stuff, and I think, "my god! think of the opportunity we have to replace the current economic system with something where we're not all in a fierce knife fight to try to stay employed so we don't starve!" We have to stop fearing the machines and start fearing the firmware running on our brains! It's capitalism that's the problem, not the robots... if anything the robots can liberate us from capital's…

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

A lot of tech recently has just made things worse. Uber made the taxi experience way worse and less predictable. Now, I can’t just walk out of a bar, get into a clean taxi and go home, I have to fiddle with an app, wait, wave trying to identify “my” ride, then hope it’s clean and safe. It’s a nightmare compared to what we had before. Uber eats made food delivery significantly worse and more expensive. It used to be t…

Complaining with the angle of "cold pizzas and spilled cola" fills a bit of touch when considering the human exploitation on the other side.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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post #33

Are there any CEOs people do trust? (I wonder how it compares if someone made a list of politicians) this seems to be the list: 65% Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella 70% Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg 70% Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang 70% OpenAI CEO Sam Altman 70% SpaceX CEO Elon Musk 75% Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai 75% Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei 79% Palantir Chairman Peter Thiel 81% Palantir CEO Alex Karp

the data was distrust:

> Palantir’s extremely controversial CEO Alex Karp scored the lowest, with 81 percent choosing “don’t trust,” while Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella fared the best — albeit with a pitiful 35 percent “trust” score.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

#120
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>read marx >dreams of man made famine and desolation Do you happen to wear glasses, mister Ciego? Me and my marx reading boys have some bourgeois liquidation quotas to fill.

You ever read Marx? I’m not a Marxist, but jeepers, it should be required reading of people.

As I recall he had a short passage or two on the Swan River Colony, and I'm pretty sure Don McLeod* read a bit of that.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilbara_strike

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