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Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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How oblivious are people to the world that they think this is somehow strange or hard to believe? Why would they like any of the tech CEOs, or CEOs in general? It's hard to see why basically anyone would at this point.

Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

The pace of growth of hatred is new (thanks to AI, mostly), but it's been sitting at a simmer for 20 years.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Automation is such an old concept invented back in the 1st century AD. Furthermore, I don't see people hating the CEOs of Siemens, Honeywell, Schneider Electric, ABB, Yokogawa, Emerson, Allen Bradley, GE Fanuc, Kuka, Hyundia, Mitsubishi etc. They've been automating entire industries & manufacturing with their controllers (PLCs, DCS etc), SCADA, HMI & systems for decades. The first PLC was invented by General Motors b…

Even to whatever extent this is what's happening, a stopped clock is right twice a day applies.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Are there any CEOs people do trust? (I wonder how it compares if someone made a list of politicians)

this seems to be the list:

  65% Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
  70% Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg
  70% Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang
  70% OpenAI CEO Sam Altman
  70% SpaceX CEO Elon Musk
  75% Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai
  75% Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei
  79% Palantir Chairman Peter Thiel
  81% Palantir CEO Alex Karp

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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The Butlerian Jihad is coming. It will happen sooner than we think. It will start with Australia, where the popular vote matters the most for political power. “Vote for the Greens! We’ll ban AI! We’ll bring your jobs back! Your savings account will earn interest again! The AI scams will stop!” All false promises, of course. The laws will be pathetic: “Prohibited digital intelligence — any digital system capable of le…

If there will be any Butlerian Anything, it will be a reaction to the excruciatingly pathetic attempts at legislating the problem into a slightly smaller problem.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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How oblivious are people to the world that they think this is somehow strange or hard to believe? Why would they like any of the tech CEOs, or CEOs in general? It's hard to see why basically anyone would at this point.

Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

A lot of tech recently has just made things worse.

Uber made the taxi experience way worse and less predictable.

Now, I can’t just walk out of a bar, get into a clean taxi and go home, I have to fiddle with an app, wait, wave trying to identify “my” ride, then hope it’s clean and safe. It’s a nightmare compared to what we had before.

Uber eats made food delivery significantly worse and more expensive.

It used to be that I could get food delivered for a known fixed price, it would arrive while still hot and it would be delivered to the door. Now, the price is obfuscated, there’s an extra fee for getting the food warm, sometimes the drinks are spilled into the bag, delivery is to the curb so I have to go outside to get it.

There’s a lot more that has been made worse by tech companies.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, CEOs are rarely appreciated in general. But the anti-tech sentiment is absolutely a new and rapidly growing beast. It’s different — trust me.

The pace of growth of hatred is new (thanks to AI, mostly), but it's been sitting at a simmer for 20 years.

It's a crisis of trust, on that point I do find myself agreeing with Dario. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49323245

edit: There are solutions to this. See link.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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I heard my 12yo uses "AI" as a synonym for crap in a context which had nothing to do with machine learning. There is a pronounced and growing disconnect between the fervently pro-AI messaging on platforms like HN and regular people. Anti-AI sentiment goes deep and has momentum. A few billion dollars of marketing and influencer spend isn't going to turn it around. When the bubble deflates as most people feel it must I think it will only reinforce the negativity.

Re: Young People Hate AI CEOs So Passionately That It's Almost Hard to Believe

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The Butlerian Jihad is coming. It will happen sooner than we think. It will start with Australia, where the popular vote matters the most for political power. “Vote for the Greens! We’ll ban AI! We’ll bring your jobs back! Your savings account will earn interest again! The AI scams will stop!” All false promises, of course. The laws will be pathetic: “Prohibited digital intelligence — any digital system capable of le…

That actually sounds pretty good to me.
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