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Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by criddell »

wolvoleo wrote: post #170
criddell wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is the only thing holding back Chromium / Blink from becoming the only browser technology that matters. I hope they keep fighting that fight.

They don't fight it for that reason though. They don't care about an open web either.

I don’t care why they do it. It’s just nice that their interests and my interests are aligned on this.

I care about the open web and see setting Google up for a monopoly on web browsers to be just about the worst thing that could happen. A duopoly isn’t much better, but it is better.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by duxup »

Sha1rholder wrote: post #101

But advertising is the source of funding that many content creators rely on to make a living... Of course I don’t want Meta and Google profiting from mind-manipulating ads, but where is better business model? Crypto micropayments?

Yeah this is a pain. Good people who do good work and aren't responsible for figuring out some micropayments ecosystem for the rest of us are reliant on advertising.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by bluebarbet »

rustcleaner wrote: post #153
Sha1rholder wrote: post #101

But advertising is the source of funding that many content creators rely on to make a living... Of course I don’t want Meta and Google profiting from mind-manipulating ads, but where is better business model? Crypto micropayments?

Maybe "content creation" shouldn't be a day job? Maybe "content creators" should get real productive day jobs while the space is open for the creators who do it out of passion and love... for free and without ads? What if some of the high cost of goods we're seeing right now is due to too many non-productive consumers (middle managers, service workers, "content creators," etc.) at the expense of not enough producers…

>not enough producers (people taking things out of the ground and converting them to useful goods)

This is an oddly outdated vision of progress IMO. Indeed a dematerialized economy of "content creation" among other things, where less of the dollars involve "taking things out of the ground" (and dumping them back there), is somewhat utopian from an environmental point of view.

Completely agree about advertising.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by EbNar »

fsflover wrote: post #168
EbNar wrote: post #40

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I've been using it for 20 years and switched 4 yearso ago to something else. My life is fine, thanks. EDIT: so, the downvotes are because what, exactly?

I didn't downvote you, but your post has no useful information and looks like pure Firefox bashing for no reason. You don't tell why you switched, to what, what you gained. Not even mentioning that wherever you switched, your protection against ads and tracking must have become worse, as only Firefox supports Ublock Origin.

The comment to which I replied wasn't that useful either.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by iinnPP »

paimapi wrote: post #98
HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #90

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Brave said they will be keeping its functionality.

Brave has certainly said a lot of good things while doing quite [0] a lot [1] of bad [2] things [3] that make me think it's mostly just marketing to lower-knowledge users that's carrying it forward. I see so many 'privacy' influencers that recommend it and Chromium, and then Firefox with no mention of FOSS options like LibreWolf, Tor Browser, IronFox, etc [0] https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/15790 [1] ht…

All valid.

I'm a Firefox user.

Depending on money from Google is worse than the aggregate of Brave behavior, for me.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by tensor »

armadyl wrote: post #54
internet2000 wrote: post #26

In case anyone here missed it, there's a native Ublock Origin for Safari. It works great → https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...

FYI uBlock Origin Lite on iOS is inferior to AdGuard and (I think) Wipr as it's just a WebExtension, so it'll only block ads within Safari itself. AdGuard and Wipr use both the Web Extension and Content Blocker APIs, so they'll block ads in all web views system wide on top of within Safari itself. However as far as trustworthiness goes, uBlock is (imo) #1.

FWIW AdGuard dev team is in Russia. Letting them proxy all your traffic is probably not the wisest move.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by tensor »

Sha1rholder wrote: post #142
leokennis wrote: post #123

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"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the wo…

I agree that they’re evil and there are legitimate reasons to use ad blockers. But ("But" is such an unwelcomed word here) we need a better business model than ads to support free content creators, if we want to push back against The Advertisers.

It's called paying for shit. Like we used to before everything went ad driven. You'd go and buy a magazine or a book or a newspaper. (Ironically, you often still got ads though, ugh).

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Post by tensor »

duxup wrote: post #124
kromokromo wrote: post #103

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No. We need to think in other ways than the ad economy. I’d gladly pay for good content if there was a decent system set up for it.

But there’s not and the end result is the same.

Youtube paid works. People pay, get no ads. Kagi so far seems to be doing well for search too. One model may not work for all content types but to say that there is no alternative is straight up not true.
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