So far all the comments discuss whether this is due to LLM slop, plagiarism avoidance, or translation issues. I want to know how these passed the peer review process.
Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
111–120 of 177 posts
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#112By the way, Google Translate is really good nowadays. It would certainly not make such mistakes anymore. In my experience, for long text it is even outperforming conventional LLMs in terms of faithfulness: Some LLMs tend to produce overly loose translations on long prose. Also, sometimes they just refuse to translate text they deem offensive.
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
During the whole BLM thing a few years ago my emplyer wanted "to do something" I guess so they added one of those "inclusive language" SaaS buttons. This seems more plausible to me. "Bosom peril" is not in any way a synonym for cancer. But if you think 'cancer' as a word will trigger people then softening it with 'peril' makes sense.
You sure it isn't a euphemism for "heart attack"?
"Bosom peril" sounds like what someone in the 1800s would write in a spicy novel describing a character's experience being unable to breathe while being hugged by a well-endowed lady.
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#114I accidentally did this myself not long ago. Like everyone else I'm tired of cookie banners so I had ChatGPT make a law against it, it used "act" in its version, I search-and-replaced it with "Law" before getting Claude to ratify it. Claude pointed out the search-and-replace replacement, oops. The conversation links are in my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48585778 and you can see Claude found the…
I’m having a hard time figuring out if this State of Utopia thing is tongue-in-cheek or serious.
it's serious but still a small project, there isn't much on the site.
I personally would like the law I linked to be followed. I sent a copy to the major browser makers and left this suggestion:
https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/comply-with-choose-cook...
where it got 1 kudos from a community manager but no other upvotes or comments.
The announcement of the law here on HN (linked in my gp comment) got 2 upvotes and no comments. So a couple of people liked the idea, but it's not a big hit.
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#115Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#116Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...
[flagged]
[dead]
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
LLMs were not available in 2021, but "Google translate" is much older. Such translations were not unusual. Around 2017 to 2019 I used a lot "Google translate", because it saved time despite its flaws, but there never was even a single sentence that I could let exactly as generated by "Google translate". In each sentence I had to change at least a word or two, and many were hilarious. This was for translations between…
LLMs were absolutely available in 2021; the architecture is from 2017 and stuff like GPT-2 and BERT had been around for years. Conversational assistants, ie. ChatGPT, started in 2022.
[deleted]
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#118SNR aka flag-to-commotion ratio https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22f...
Some more examples of these tortured phrases: https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06751
A few of my favorites are "counterfeit consciousness" (artificial intelligence), "discourse acknowledgement" (voice recognition), and "arbitrary get right of passage to memory" (random access memory).
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#119I’m guessing this has something to do with the EU mandate for AI watermarking content
Well for the ding dong that downvoted me, here's a technical explanation of why this is a plausible theory * current LLMs work by choosing next likely token, with a small randomization built in (emulating how humans sometimes substitute words) * one implementation of the text marking is to "rig" the dice roll above, but do that on based upon a certain key * so by looking at word substitutions in text, you can use a k…
The phenomenon of tortured phrases in published papers has been going on since at least 2020 - long before LLMs were a significant factor, and certainly before watermarking their output was a consideration.
The general working theory is that these phrases are the result of a "text spinner" tool being applied to a manuscript and blindly replacing random words or phrases using a preset list of synonyms (which are often imprecise and/or inappropriate). https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.06751 found that many of the commonly observed phrases were characteristic of an online text-spinning tool.
Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This doesn‘t sound like AI. LLMs do not use dictionary definitions for translating a paper this way. It does look like some translation engine like Google Translate or worse, maybe with some text obfuscator trying to avoid plagiarism detection.
Google Translate uses an LLM, last I heard.
Only since 2023.