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Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by boutell »

pluc wrote: post #82
sajithdilshan wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original question was about developers going back to manually coding without using AI. The link you posted is not about it. IBM replaced its Human Resources team with AI and hired them back. They didn’t remove AI usage in development and went back to manual coding. Please read your sources completely before posting them only reading the title

The question was whether some companies forego LLMs in favour of human authoring

The original question was certainly specific to coding. It's right in the title.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by stasomatic »

gilrain wrote: post #9
gamerDude wrote: post #6

In my startup, I am currently in consideration for doing this exact thing. The interesting part is it's not really the AI that's causing the issue. It's the ease of my developer to make a mess, either with messy code or feature bloat. After figuring out the exact product we need with some very quick development cycles with AI, we now have some problems that I can't keep under control because of AI. So, currently unde…

> I am currently in consideration for doing this Try “I am considering”.

Why are you being so friendly? Perhaps En isn't their native language. Although, taken out of context, that sentence could be interpreted as "I got myself in trouble for doing this". :)

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by dijksterhuis »

gamerDude wrote: post #6

In my startup, I am currently in consideration for doing this exact thing. The interesting part is it's not really the AI that's causing the issue. It's the ease of my developer to make a mess, either with messy code or feature bloat. After figuring out the exact product we need with some very quick development cycles with AI, we now have some problems that I can't keep under control because of AI. So, currently unde…

> the goal is both a happy team and well functioning software.

software first. team second.

team happiness is important as a miserable team will hamper productivity and quality. but the team’s happiness is secondary to their overarching reason d’être — the software.

if there were no need for the software, the team wouldn’t need to exist. so that goal should take precedence.

YMMV

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by didgetmaster »

chuckadams wrote: post #43
dirkc wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> circular economy I get what you mean, but in general circular economy means something different, positive in my opinion. Here is what wikipedia has to say: > a model of resource production and consumption that involves sharing, leasing, reusing, repairing, refurbishing, and recycling materials and products, to extend product life cycle for as long as possible In the EU it is a hot topic for a lot of non-profit and…

I think the term GP was looking for was "circular financing", which has far fewer positive connotations.

Right. Almost every economy is circular in some fashion. Every producer is also a consumer. Sometimes the circle is quite big, but many of the dollars (or other currency) that you spend, come back to you in the money you earn.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by didgetmaster »

PikachuEXE wrote: post #66

My company hasn't switched at all... does that count?

I think there are many companies that have not hopped on the AI bandwagon yet. This is why AI companies still see a huge potential for continued growth.

Some are hesitant to chase after the latest fad (fearing it will soon fade); others want the industry to shake out many of the flaws first.

We saw the same thing with the Internet. Many companies (including some really big ones) were slow to embrace it until everyone else was on board.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by markus_zhang »

mrdw wrote: post #27
markus_zhang wrote: post #18

We don’t have a no-AI policy but I’m trying to hand roll some code, because it is useful for interviews. It is very difficult to memorize the exact syntax unless I hand write code everyday.

What's your grade?

Senior. So I still get coding tests. I wouldn’t worry if I’m Staff and above.

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by atn34 »

sjducb wrote: post #28
tomwuu wrote: post #2

Although code quality may sometimes suffer, no one can deny the productivity gains AI brings to software development.

You absolutely can deny long term productivity gains. Pre AI it took 100 engineers 5 years to get into a legacy code situation. Once you’re in a legacy code situation it’s very hard to add new features and your code is full of bugs. Fortunately most old companies with legacy code are making loads of money so they can pay the increased development costs to add features to their legacy code. Now with AI five engineers…

Amateur numbers. I can build a legacy codebase in an afternoon

Re: Ask HN: Do you know of any company that went back to hand-written code?

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Post by gamerDude »

gilrain wrote: post #9
gamerDude wrote: post #6

In my startup, I am currently in consideration for doing this exact thing. The interesting part is it's not really the AI that's causing the issue. It's the ease of my developer to make a mess, either with messy code or feature bloat. After figuring out the exact product we need with some very quick development cycles with AI, we now have some problems that I can't keep under control because of AI. So, currently unde…

> I am currently in consideration for doing this Try “I am considering”.

Rereading, I can appreciate the active verb you want me to use, but I like "in consideration".

I am in a period of consideration, it's more passive which accurately captures the reality.

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