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SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by VoidWhisperer »

arjie wrote: post #10
VoidWhisperer wrote: post #8

Worth noting, if they are covered by the person's insurance, it may be worth looking into using a CGM (Continuous glucose monitor) and the self-hostable application Nightscout[0]. CGMs use the interstitial fluid in (usually, although people also use other spots) inside side of the upper arm to measure blood sugar. As long as they are placed in the right spot (i.e. in a fattier area instead of directly on top of muscl…

Interesting. My dad wears his on the back of the arm (posterior) not the inside (medial) - and when I asked him he pointed to the official instructions which do actually have it there https://www.freestyle.abbott/content/dam/adc/freestyle/count... It must be a different kind of device.

No, he is correct. When I wrote this comment originally I was having trouble thinking of how exactly to describe the location

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by KetoManx64 »

sublinear wrote: post #6
brayhite wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those who don’t have a meter that can export readings.

Which ones? The most humble meters come free in a kit, since you're really buying the test strips, and they all have onboard memory and an optional app. It's extremely unlikely the owners of those meters would even be able to use any other app. There's no standard for the device data sent over bluetooth to the app. There's no USB port. Beyond 90 days of data (many meters have 99), A1C is preferred. Reverse engineerin…

> It's extremely unlikely that owners of these meters would be able to use any other app.

I've been using Xdrip+ for 2 years now with the Dexcom CGM instead of their proprietary app. Works great and gives me the ability to export my data or sync it with a self hosted database if I so please. Why would I trust a corporation with my private health data when they have continuously shown that they will sell it or lose it to a hack the first chance they get.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by sublinear »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #12
sublinear wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which ones? The most humble meters come free in a kit, since you're really buying the test strips, and they all have onboard memory and an optional app. It's extremely unlikely the owners of those meters would even be able to use any other app. There's no standard for the device data sent over bluetooth to the app. There's no USB port. Beyond 90 days of data (many meters have 99), A1C is preferred. Reverse engineerin…

> It's extremely unlikely that owners of these meters would be able to use any other app. I've been using Xdrip+ for 2 years now with the Dexcom CGM instead of their proprietary app. Works great and gives me the ability to export my data or sync it with a self hosted database if I so please. Why would I trust a corporation with my private health data when they have continuously shown that they will sell it or lose it…

I've used Xdrip before, and it's device support is not that great either.

I'm not arguing against the idea. I'm being realistic about what devs and users can do about this situation.

If you're lucky enough to find something that works, I'm not knocking that.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by hunzaboy »

codingdave wrote: post #3

There is no way I'd track that info in an app. My meter keeps history. I can download it to my device. Why would I put another app in the middle of that process?

My use case is a bit different. I’m not trying to replace the meter or its history.

The problem I wanted to solve starts when the readings change. A doctor may ask, “What did you eat around that time?” With this app you can save a photo of the meal alongside the blood sugar reading, notes and medication.

So the goal is less about storing the number and more about keeping the context around the number and making that context easy to share with the doctor.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by hunzaboy »

VoidWhisperer wrote: post #8

Worth noting, if they are covered by the person's insurance, it may be worth looking into using a CGM (Continuous glucose monitor) and the self-hostable application Nightscout[0]. CGMs use the interstitial fluid in (usually, although people also use other spots) inside side of the upper arm to measure blood sugar. As long as they are placed in the right spot (i.e. in a fattier area instead of directly on top of muscl…

Unfortunately, that’s not really an option for my target audience. In remote areas, the issue isn't only the cost. Its availability, access to the devices, internet connectivity, and the expertise needed to set them up can all be barriers. A basic glucometer and a phone are much more realistic.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by hunzaboy »

nichos wrote: post #7
jmagland wrote: post #5

There should be more simple, no login, apps like this

Check out https://codeberg.org/toz/MediLog

This looks really interesting. Thanks for sharing. I’ve already found some really good ideas here for the next version.

My focus is a bit different though. I’m trying to make the experience as simple and frictionless as possible, especially for non-technical amd old people.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by KetoManx64 »

sublinear wrote: post #13
KetoManx64 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's extremely unlikely that owners of these meters would be able to use any other app. I've been using Xdrip+ for 2 years now with the Dexcom CGM instead of their proprietary app. Works great and gives me the ability to export my data or sync it with a self hosted database if I so please. Why would I trust a corporation with my private health data when they have continuously shown that they will sell it or lose it…

I've used Xdrip before, and it's device support is not that great either. I'm not arguing against the idea. I'm being realistic about what devs and users can do about this situation. If you're lucky enough to find something that works, I'm not knocking that.

"Kimi decompile this proprietary APK and find the communication channels used to communicate with this model GCM. Let me know what software you need to to install to achieve this "

The world is your oyster if you have some self motivation.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by Godsend69 »

KetoManx64 wrote: post #12
sublinear wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which ones? The most humble meters come free in a kit, since you're really buying the test strips, and they all have onboard memory and an optional app. It's extremely unlikely the owners of those meters would even be able to use any other app. There's no standard for the device data sent over bluetooth to the app. There's no USB port. Beyond 90 days of data (many meters have 99), A1C is preferred. Reverse engineerin…

> It's extremely unlikely that owners of these meters would be able to use any other app. I've been using Xdrip+ for 2 years now with the Dexcom CGM instead of their proprietary app. Works great and gives me the ability to export my data or sync it with a self hosted database if I so please. Why would I trust a corporation with my private health data when they have continuously shown that they will sell it or lose it…

You might want to consider using a self-hosted database to store your data. Telemetry Blocklist (free) can help prevent any apps from phoning home, but it's not specific to this use case. If you're concerned about data security, you might want to explore other options for storing your health data offline.

Re: SugarTrack – an offline Android logbook for blood sugar (no account, no cloud)

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Post by close04 »

arjie wrote: post #10
VoidWhisperer wrote: post #8

Worth noting, if they are covered by the person's insurance, it may be worth looking into using a CGM (Continuous glucose monitor) and the self-hostable application Nightscout[0]. CGMs use the interstitial fluid in (usually, although people also use other spots) inside side of the upper arm to measure blood sugar. As long as they are placed in the right spot (i.e. in a fattier area instead of directly on top of muscl…

Interesting. My dad wears his on the back of the arm (posterior) not the inside (medial) - and when I asked him he pointed to the official instructions which do actually have it there https://www.freestyle.abbott/content/dam/adc/freestyle/count... It must be a different kind of device.

Always follow the manufacturer’s instructions. Most CGMs are going on the back of the upper arm but some were put on the lower back, or other places. The manufacturer develops the CGM with a very specific placement in mind and they make sure to tell you very clearly.
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