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Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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I don't think we should expect such unreasonable standards from future presidents.

bro the president suggested we nuke a hurricane and raped someone and is dismantling our natural resources, the bar is substantially worse than a couple months technical debt.

Fellow Apple product user. Join me in jeering at people who drink instant coffee.

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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The word is "management", not "leadership". This comes across as a LinkedIn post filled with vague notions and weak writing. The conclusion also completely contradicts a previous point, which is that managing an LLM is not like managing a human. So the skills are, in contradiction to that LLM-ism of a conclusion, new. The author isn't using their people management skills, they're using new LLM-management skills. They…

I’d say strategy, which is a subset of management

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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Regular management, no matter how bad the tendencies go, is still, at the very least, constrained by a cost to fire people, which can be years of salary and some paperwork on top.

That's odd, I seem to see the incentive to fire people with stock value improving as a result. And since management is often paid in stock, they seem to care more about stock price than this "years of salary and paperwork" cost you mention.

You're conflating two things (probably intentionally, but I'll go with it). If you are firing someone without replacing (a layoff), then presumably, that person cost more than the value they provided, and so laying them off should improve the value of the business (after incurring the costs the parent post mentioned).

If you are firing someone to replace them with someone else, you are incurring a lot of cost (hiring is time consuming, difficult, risky, and requires a ramp-up time before the new hire is productive), and hoping that the long term benefits outweigh that cost.

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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Yes, it's management with little concern for human factors because you can abuse or and even fire your reports and summon new ones of equal competence at will.

Isn't that just regular management?

No regular manager has an infinite hiring pool, so no.

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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My Eng lead has no coding experience, 25 years of management experience, yet has driven 3 separate projects into technical bankruptcy to date. He just accepts anything that Claude says as truth. He vibecoded over 60,000 lines of code in 3 weeks, but couldn’t get it to do what he want and made a project overrun for 3 extra months. When the pissed off stakeholders called a meeting to ask what was going on he didn’t sho…

> My Eng lead has no coding experience, 25 years of management experience, yet has driven 3 separate projects into technical bankruptcy to date.

This is C-suite material.

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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The task is very simple: Thousands of super fast fairly good contractors show up at your company's front door. You can't really trust them with data, they do occasionally make mistakes, they have to learn everything about your organization and product from scratch, and btw they leave in 10 minutes again. If you can design your organization to handle this, you gain superpowers. And of course this is a management probl…

Interesting analogy but inaccurate. The time AI can spend on tasks these days is much, much longer than 10 minutes.

I think you missed the point. No analogy is perfect.

Re: Working with AI feels more like leadership than coding

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Juniors turn to seniors. You can never trust AI won't glitch... lol

> Juniors turn to seniors. AI has gone from "codes like a student" to "fresh hire junior" to "nearly ready for next step in career" at about the same, tiny bit faster, calendar pace as humans. > You can never trust AI won't glitch... True. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson And?

No, it really hasn't. You still can't remotely trust it to not get stuff wrong.
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