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Cloudflare's AI Psychosis

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Re: Cloudflare's AI Psychosis

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Post by orf »

> First of all tons of more outages than ever, remember that React useEffect fkup [0]? Complete insane that this would happen at an infra company that runs a third or so of the web.

Bugs happen all the time. They roughly increase with scale, not decrease. There’s an argument to be made about better testing, but this specific bug seems like a perfect one to slip through: multiple services, hard to spot at code review, involves JS/frontend, invisible at low traffic (test/UT envs).

So IMO it’s not completely insane. Is the implication that Cloudflare should have no bugs whatsoever?

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Post by spicyusername »

The fact is that every major company is AI accelerating their development, and soon, it will just be every company.

We're already past the point of getting our hackles raised when we suspect something is AI written. Everything is or soon will be AI written.

So I don't think it's that useful to blame bad product design on AI.

Bad product design is just bad product design. Bad writing is just bad writing. Bad graphic design is just bad graphic design.

The industry needs to get over this hump of pretending we're not all going to adopt AI for every imaginable thing. The cat's out of the bag, for better or for worse.

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Post by decide1000 »

spicyusername wrote: post #4

The fact is that every major company is AI accelerating their development, and soon, it will just be every company. We're already past the point of getting our hackles raised when we suspect something is AI written. Everything is or soon will be AI written. So I don't think it's that useful to blame bad product design on AI. Bad product design is just bad product design. Bad writing is just bad writing. Bad graphic d…

It's not just the AI. The post mentions poor choices because of a product management mindset instead of engineers leading the PMs.

Re: Cloudflare's AI Psychosis

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Post by daishi55 »

I don’t understand the impulse to whine and complain about the aesthetics of a big company.

> a little more cringey and clique

Why on earth do I care if someone thinks Cloudflare is cringe? What is interesting about that? They are following the market like everyone else.

> Too many ways to do the same thing, none of them great…They got D1 (SQLite serverless), Durable Objects with their own SQLite, KV, R2, Queues, and Hyperdrive to speed up external Postgres or MySQL.

What does this have to do with AI psychosis? I thought that was the thesis of this article? As I said, it’s just directionless complaining.

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