Is it right to say that Borland basically invented the IDE? I didn't use Turbo Pascal but did have a copy of Turbo C back in the day and that was certainly the first IDE-like programming environment I can remember.
Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
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Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#42I purchased Turbo Pascal 3 for Amstrad CPC 6128 with my pocket money back in 1989(?). That was 1000 FF back then (~275€ today) so quite a big sum for a teenager. My dad took pity on me and funded 50% of it. Best investment ever! Learning Pascal after Locomotive Basic was night and day. And the speeeeeed! I could finally compute 320x200 Mandelbrot set renderings in reasonable amounts of time (few minutes IIRC). I stil…
Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#43Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#44Early versions (3?) could fit an amazing editor, assembler, compiler, debugger and whole IDE in just 120kb(!!!) of disk space. Vim looks pathetic in comparison to it...
Aztec-C on the Apple II had a vi editor that ran on a 64K machine, but you had to exit it before you could run the compiler.
I didn't know that was possible.
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#45But, I ended up switching to Turbo C for the 'cool' factor, but in reality TP was a better way to go about what I was using it for.
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#46« I wrote Pascal for 8080 in 1976 and Finnish Army even paid some money for it.
I was truly disappointed that Turbo Pascal did not copy my handy PORT-metavariable. You can write & read IO-ports without any extra hässle: »
https://x.com/TimoNoko/status/2088526751693496346
The screenshot makes his point very well.
EDIT: oh! I see he commented downthread!
Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#47I wish someone will just use Claude Code and generate an equivalent of Delphi 7 for Linux, MacOSX and Windows.
Literally 5 seconds on Google would find the FreePascal Compiler and Lazarus.
Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#48Is it right to say that Borland basically invented the IDE? I didn't use Turbo Pascal but did have a copy of Turbo C back in the day and that was certainly the first IDE-like programming environment I can remember.
Long before the term IDE was coined, there were source code editors from within which you could run the shell commands required to build a software project and you could examine their output, e.g. the error messages. Moreover, interpreters that offered a complete interactive environment for editing, running and debugging programs, had existed for decades for languages like APL and LISP. Nonetheless, the availability…
In fairness, it was never designed for those uses. It was originally a teaching language, meant to be used to teach structured programming. Borland took the syntax and enhanced it to be more generally useful on microcomputers.
Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was not supported in 3.0. You could however include inline machine code, pre-assembled elsewhere or by hand.
Elsewhere like in turbo assembler https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Assembler
Re: Turbo Pascal on CP/M, MSX-DOS and MS-DOS
#50I wish someone will just use Claude Code and generate an equivalent of Delphi 7 for Linux, MacOSX and Windows.
Oh come on. It would have been quicker to look than to type this comment! Before extruding more slop, always engage brain. Literally 5 seconds on Google would find the FreePascal Compiler and Lazarus. https://www.freepascal.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/
It hurts when i do it. People are lazy. They prefer that others do things for them.