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The fact that we are reading this differently is an existence proof that there are multiple ways to interpret the conversation and the points being made within. We should be mindful of that and respond accordingly, perhaps asking more questions instead of being combative.
You are the only person who made an assumption (a probably-incorrect one) and then was combative about it. People on general message boards talking about state surveillance powers are not generally crafting trial strategies. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49294009 > they are not wrong [per my interpretation] > you are therefore a dick I think between 1 lawyer and 2 laypeople talking about law, it's quite likely…
License plate reader searches should require a warrant
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Re: License plate reader searches should require a warrant
#422It frustrates me when people call them license plate readers. I guess you need to call them something, but they are general-purpose internet connected cameras. They will do whatever their firmware tells them to do, and could be reprogrammed at any time by anyone with access. No one expected doorbell cameras to join a mass surveillance network, but later the manufacturers added that feature. Why do we treat these came…
Don't know if it's true (cuz lazy), but I recently read that they will start tracking phone signals an linking them to plates.
Re: License plate reader searches should require a warrant
#423A warrant is better than no warrant, but: A warrant requirement is not a reasonable bandaid to consider allowing mass spying. There should be no mass spying by default. A warrant requirement makes sense for something like the locations of customers on cellular networks, because, although it should be improved, it's been built into the tech. When you make the optional choice to create mass spying, safeguards do not ma…
This should be up to the citizens. If you're living in Oakland with rampant theft and illegal dumping, it's a reasonable trade-off to allow tracking down perpetrators with a warrant. Most people would not agree to allowing police to do arbitrary searches of that data without a warrant.