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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Do people not remember Firefox changing their terms of service last year and allowing them to sell your data to third parties? I don't get it did people forget? I switched over to LibreWolf and other browsers like that then and never looked back.

They rewrote the terms almost immediately after the backlash. They also claimed the original terms were written in response to the overly broad legal definitions of "data sales" under laws like the CCPA. Which tbh sounds reasonable

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Thank God for the Brave browser. For those disliking their built-in adblocker, there is a Manifest v2 opt-out specifically for uBlock if you need it.

Peter Theil was an angel investor in Brave. That alone is all the reason privacy-minded users need to avoid it.

As someone who lives in a country bordering russia, I will certainly switch to Brave now.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Exactly. The difference between the two is not qualitatively different for 99% of users.

I noticed that UBO Lite doesn't cause the ad boxes to vanish like UBO does. You see this on the likes of the weather.com webpage.

Exactly. The Lite version is basically "hiding" ads rather than blocking. The MV2 version stops the requests themselves from being made which save your bandwidth and battery. The light version lacks those benefits

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Thank God for the Brave browser. For those disliking their built-in adblocker, there is a Manifest v2 opt-out specifically for uBlock if you need it.

Brave is malware, I don't understand how anyone on HN can use it, baffles me every time. They've literally been caught MITMing web pages for their own financial gains.

In that case Firefox is also out. They have been caught auto installing random hidden extensions with full read/write access to all websites and blocking uBlock Origin from working on, for example, the Firefox extension site.

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What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

> extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do.

If that would have been the case, extensions wouldn’t exist.

Extension are a way to make the browser do what the browser manufacturer didn’t think or care about.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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I don't know why with LLMs we can't just add MV2/blocking web request support to Chromium in a fork. The argument against was always that it's "too hard to keep a fork in sync". Now it's easier.

That's basically exactly what Brave (the only Chromium browser still supporting uBO) is doing to support uBlock Origin. But it's flimsy and likely has an expiration date.

AFAIK they are using the built-in support which Google still maintains even if they don't expose it.

My point is that when MV3 was announced there was an assumption that maintaining a Chromium fork to continue supporting MV2 would be too much work and too expensive. But now with LLMs that's no longer a safe assumption. The non-Chrome chromium based browsers can fork chromium and add back MV2. No need for any expiration date.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Websites already can barely be assed to care about supporting Firefox users, doing adblocking by default is a great way to get websites to start putting up banners that say "our website does not work with your browser, please switch to Chrome" en-masse. And Mozilla did develop anti-fingerprinting tech, but they can't enable it by default because it breaks lots of websites and when a website doesn't work they're not g…

With a normal Firefox on desktop on Linux, I get unsolvable recaptchas all the time, especially on cloudflare pages. Ironically, if I fake instead a chromium to be on Windows (UA and Sec-CH headers), I am allowed most of the time even though my TCP fingerprint must mismatch then. It's annoying to see what the normal web has become. Can't even read news anymore. Ironically, all these bot defenses make it easier for bo…

> With a normal Firefox on desktop on Linux, I get unsolvable recaptchas all the time, especially on cloudflare pages.

I get this with Chrome on MacOS.

I'm becoming more convinced that Cloudflare is the bane of the internet.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #237

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Can’t speak for all users, but at least as of about six months ago, there appears to be a bug in Firefox in NixOS where the shader cache doesn’t appear to be able to write properly, and as such video acceleration doesn’t work. It became most evident when I was trying to watch 360-degree videos in Immich. Entirely possible that this is an issue specific to NixOS or my machine, but because of that issue I switched over…

the obvious thing to do is keep using firefox as your daily driver, and load up the other browser as needed for the video etc. I'm being tongue-in-cheek here because it seems most people just give up on safari/firefox if one thing doesn't work and go to some chromium-based browser as their default driver. That's sad.

I don't understand it. I do keep an ungoogled chromium install around for the few times when I suspect a site is intentionally breaking itself for firefox, and it's not a big deal to open on occasion. Otherwise, if you value customization at all, you have to use firefox.

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In one of the monthly update videos Andreas mentioned that although they are working on a basic built-in adblocker for Ladybird, long-term they want extension support and the adblocking functionality to be in an extension.

Why does ad blocking always have to be relegated to an extension? Browsers build in so many things. Why do they all draw the line at a feature like ad blocking that every user wants?

Because they want a level of plausible deniability.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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post #291

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"Random" is what I call pretty much every extension that is not uBlock Origin. I absolutely want them limited to the fullest extent. Maybe if they were, I would actually install some of them. > I do however want the very specific programs that I have intentionally installed to be able to access my home folder easily. I don't. My standard operating practice is to virtualize them. My security posture is considerably mo…

What do you use for virtualization for tools from developer repositories? Run them in a VM or sandboxing like bubblewrap?

QEMU virtual machines. Sandboxes like firejail and bubblewrap share a kernel: attacker is one exploit away from root. Hypervisors present an infinitely smaller attack surface, and if they're ever defeated the entire industry is done, not just me.

I have a base system image that gets forked off into delta qcow2 images for every project I'm working on or whatever ephemeral execution context I need.

I started a side project to build software just to manage those VMs. I'm daily driving this thing even though it's my first "vibecoded" project, it's just way too useful and has saved me quite a few times from accidents.

https://github.com/matheusmoreira/virtdev

The firewall works but it's pretty clunky. I'm working on a custom Rust network stack to replace it.

You'd probably prefer something that isn't literally made by one guy and his AIs though. Docker sandboxes seem to be a good solution that also employs virtualization.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49239751

Before I made all this, I used to use firejail.

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