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Mistral OCR 4.1

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Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by dylan604 »

runtime_lens wrote: post #140
dylan604 wrote: post #93

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> Claude is obviously more expensive, but it caught entirely hallucinated sentences created by Mistral OCR 4.0, so I was glad for the backup check. What does this entail? What does Claude do to decide that the text it was provided was hallucinated? Are you telling Claude that the source was OCR'd by another LLM?

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Yes, that's how I read it as well, but the question remains in how did Claude know this? It was not clear to me that Claude was being presented the original scan. The entire exercise is farcical, but it wasn't as clear exactly how farcical it was that the person was essentially running OCR wastefully on a different model just to convince Claude to do the OCR as desired because of Anthropic's rules. Here's this cool tool that is supposed to make you do less work and be able to do it faster and be able to do it more accurately, except you first have to do all of this other unnecessary work with a totally different company first.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by jassyr »

tkgally wrote: post #112
jassyr wrote: post #91

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>Anthropic now flags OCR I haven't seen any difference in my ocr workflows, what do you mean by this?

Not the person you’re responding to, but I’ve had Claude refuse to OCR pages from in-copyright books. I was sometimes (but not always) able to get around that by changing models, by telling it that I was doing the text conversion only for personal use, or by first telling it to use Tesseract or another OCR engine to do the initial pass and then having a Claude subagent proofread and clean up the OCR output. I’ve also…

Ah, I see. Thanks for sharing. I am OCR'ing public domain .pdfs, so perhaps I haven't run into that issue. The irony couldn't be stronger though.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by rdm_blackhole »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #102
sajithdilshan wrote: post #88

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and you trust the french?

I trust them more than the Americans and Chinese. Genuinely rooting for them to close the gap.

You shouldn't.

The French government is not to be trusted with the data you give it.

https://cybernews.com/security/ants-hack-france-19-million-r... https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2026/08/14/french-t...

Two cyberattacks that we know of happened this year and the extent of the second one is still unclear at this stage.

This is the same government that has pushed for: - Chat Control v1 and v2 (client side scanning) - Id requirement for social media (that just struck down by the courts) - Arrested of the founder of Telegram because he refused to hand over its users data to the French government and used dubious charges to arrest him

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by rdm_blackhole »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #169
sajithdilshan wrote: post #149

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Good luck with that. Mistral is never going to produce a frontier model. Their business model is to rely on the EU regulations and cater to the bureaucracy. I won't be surprised if their next model is specialized on generating laws/regulations for EU lawmakers so they can sell it to EU. That way their business would survive for the next 5-10 years till EU implodes.

Your disdain for the EU is genuinely puzzling to me.

Why is someone critiquing the EU such an affront to you? Is the EU above reproach for some reason?

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by sajithdilshan »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #169
sajithdilshan wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck with that. Mistral is never going to produce a frontier model. Their business model is to rely on the EU regulations and cater to the bureaucracy. I won't be surprised if their next model is specialized on generating laws/regulations for EU lawmakers so they can sell it to EU. That way their business would survive for the next 5-10 years till EU implodes.

Your disdain for the EU is genuinely puzzling to me.

Why is it so puzzling? EU has become nothing but an authoritarian regime even violating the sovereignty of member states. It was working fine and well when it was an economic union, but now it has become more of a mafia that infiltrate and try to control every aspect of life of Europeans.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

rdm_blackhole wrote: post #175
MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your disdain for the EU is genuinely puzzling to me.

Why is someone critiquing the EU such an affront to you? Is the EU above reproach for some reason?

Certainly not above reproach, and there are reasons to have beef with them (I know I do). That said, they're doing some aspects of modern democracy better than the US, and we really ought to borrow each other's best ideas.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

sajithdilshan wrote: post #176
MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your disdain for the EU is genuinely puzzling to me.

Why is it so puzzling? EU has become nothing but an authoritarian regime even violating the sovereignty of member states. It was working fine and well when it was an economic union, but now it has become more of a mafia that infiltrate and try to control every aspect of life of Europeans.

The US is not better in those regards, and is more likely to fall at this point. That would leave the EU as the last best place in the world to live.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by sajithdilshan »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #178
sajithdilshan wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it so puzzling? EU has become nothing but an authoritarian regime even violating the sovereignty of member states. It was working fine and well when it was an economic union, but now it has become more of a mafia that infiltrate and try to control every aspect of life of Europeans.

The US is not better in those regards, and is more likely to fall at this point. That would leave the EU as the last best place in the world to live.

US has been there for more than 250 years. How old is EU? Wait till the French debt crisis triggers the euro collapse and everyone in EU can live like the Greeks after the financial crisis, maybe except for the Germans. They always find a way

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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Post by sajithdilshan »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #177
rdm_blackhole wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is someone critiquing the EU such an affront to you? Is the EU above reproach for some reason?

Certainly not above reproach, and there are reasons to have beef with them (I know I do). That said, they're doing some aspects of modern democracy better than the US, and we really ought to borrow each other's best ideas.

Democracy and EU in one sentence is quite funny. Non of the top EU heads are elected by people and yet those unelected corrupt heads want to create a surveillance regime. So much for democracy
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