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Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by socalgal2 »

big_toast wrote: post #51
GeekyBear wrote: post #21

Firefox is also the only browser that vets uBlock's code on every update to make sure the developer hasn't inserted spyware or malware into the extension. They don't do it for every extension, but they do so for a wide selection of popular options. > Recommended extensions differ from other extensions that are regularly reviewed by Firefox staff in that they are curated extensions that meet the highest standards of s…

That's pretty cool. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't see where it says 'on every update' unless you're referring to the automated checks? I've always wished extensions had more granular permissions though (a la phones, but more so). I think automated ai security checks sound promising soon.

what permissions do you suggest?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by chr15m »

windowliker wrote: post #154

I often forget how browsing the web looks for most people. Can't understand why they put up with it, or do they just think that it's part and parcel of the internet to have every page look like a slot machine from hell?

Yes, in the same way constant software malfunctions and errors are normal and tolerated.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by sensanaty »

jjav wrote: post #66
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It kinda works" is factually incorrect. I have used Firefox exclusively every day on macOS for the past year, several hours a day, and have not one single time had to open another browser. None of the customers of my B2B saas use Firefox. Not once have I needed to test in their browsers except quick smoke testing to prove to myself that the rendering and details are identical. All my other browsing is indistinguisha…

Agreed, I can't understand where these experiences come from. I only ever use Firefox, at work, at home, mobile. Since forever, as long as there has been a Firefox (and Mozilla before that, Netscape prior). There was one time about 8-10 years ago that I encountered a site that didn't work in Firefox, was some weird proprietary training module at work. So yes, I did encounter one site that didn't work in Firefox in th…

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it was Google astroturfing every single thread relating to FF. Yes, Mozilla isn't perfect and had some questionable decisions, but we're somehow okay with the worse option out of the two? Somehow, Mozilla's decisions are enough to never use FF, but Google's infinitely many horrible ones are acceptable for.... What reason?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by socalgal2 »

avaer wrote: post #32

What's funny is that extensions were supposed to be a way to let you do the things the browser didn't want you to do. Guess that was a bit too much freedom for Google to accept, so they had to make a store with a gate, and destroy the APIs so that they're useless. Then they had to make up some reasons to justify that and ram it through the pipeline despite everyone's objections, and the frog got boiled. Now we're bac…

> Google ... had to ... destroy the APIs so that they're useless.

I see this repeated over and over and yet uBlock Origin Lite still seems to block almost all ads. I'm not saying I wouldn't prefer the non-lite version. But, given I basically still don't see ads it's kind of hard to argue Google destroyed the APIs so that they're useless

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by aaplok »

swed420 wrote: post #155
Plont wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They literally didn't deny that. They made a separate point you appear not to have actually read. Regardless, I don't want baked-in Firefox adblocking in part because I don't trust Mozilla with that task either. They'd absolutely end up allowing their own "acceptable" telemetry and ads. Even if they didn't, it would be unlikely to ever be as effective as Ublock Origin. Much like how Chromium browsers' built-in adbloc…

Their separate point was ignored because it was an irrelevant tangent. > Regardless, I don't want baked-in Firefox adblocking in part because I don't trust Mozilla with that task either. This is in a thread about how we should be happy that FF is vetting code for us. Do we trust them or don't we? > And yet, for now, Firefox and Mozilla is by far the lesser evil. I'm instinctively tempted to agree, but the difference…

> Do we trust them or don't we?

GP trusts them for reviewing external extension code, and ensure that it does not contain malware, but not for not inserting exception to their own telemetry if they wrote the code themselves.

Or, more likely, they feel that having two independent actors collaborating on the extension (one by writing and the other by reviewing) yields a more trustworthy outcome than either actor on their own.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by hn_submit »

downrightmike wrote: post #57
hn_submit wrote: post #46

Does it really make a huge difference to keep supporting Manifest Version 2? I've installed uBlock Origin Lite in my Edge browser and I don't see any ads there either.

YES!!

Then why haven't I see any difference in ad blocking with uBlock Origin Lite on Edge?

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by swed420 »

aaplok wrote: post #166
swed420 wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their separate point was ignored because it was an irrelevant tangent. > Regardless, I don't want baked-in Firefox adblocking in part because I don't trust Mozilla with that task either. This is in a thread about how we should be happy that FF is vetting code for us. Do we trust them or don't we? > And yet, for now, Firefox and Mozilla is by far the lesser evil. I'm instinctively tempted to agree, but the difference…

> Do we trust them or don't we? GP trusts them for reviewing external extension code, and ensure that it does not contain malware, but not for not inserting exception to their own telemetry if they wrote the code themselves. Or, more likely, they feel that having two independent actors collaborating on the extension (one by writing and the other by reviewing) yields a more trustworthy outcome than either actor on the…

That was a rhetorical question.

Mozilla have given us plenty of reasons to not trust them, which makes it hilarious that anybody would think it's noteworthy they're reviewing the code of Raymond Hill of all people.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by mzajc »

lxgr wrote: post #101
michaelt wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want my browser to prevent random extensions from directly reading web page data. To be honest, to me it sounds like you don't want browser extensions then. To me, directly messing with web page data and browser behaviour is the whole point of a browser extension - what else is a browser extension for?

Why should there not be a middle ground between “can do absolutely everything with all my data” and “is basically a glorified bookmark button” based on the level of trust I have for an extension?

Because security is the pretext, not the goal here. I'm sure browsers could have better security controls for extensions, but giving users extra control over software doesn't seem to be very popular among corpos nowadays.

Re: Firefox is now the last major browser that still supports uBlock Origin

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Post by socalgal2 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #69

For those who use uBlock Origin Lite, have you noticed any issues/deficiencies in what ads are blocked? I haven't.

I have not really had any issues with ads using uBlock Origin Lite. It's like the complainers live in an alternate reality or just listened to some influencer and never actually checked.

I do miss the rules that let me remove stuff based like CSS like selectors. The strange thing is, even though uBlock Origin Lite doesn't support that feature it's still totally possible to make an extension that does that. Maybe the specific thing uBlock Origin was doing is not possible but making an extension that follows rules and hides/deletes elements with different rules per site is still fully possible under manifest v3

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