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Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by SyneRyder »

jpadkins wrote: post #484
SyneRyder wrote: post #250

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Similar experience here, for what it's worth, though I didn't get as far as you. I basically just stopped and didn't bother - it was easier to go through OpenRouter than spend more energy on it. Also: > Google assumes that they're serving companies at Google scale first So much this. I'm currently grandfathered in until the end of the year on Google's Search API, but the $35,000 they want to continue usage of my < 10…

It's not an assumption that the customer is Google scale that led the $35k monthly price point. It was that you (and many others like you) are breaking the terms of service (which state you are not supposed to store, process or analyze the search results). It was an API built for a different era, that doesn't really exist anymore. > It has honestly been easier to use Anthropic to help me build my own search index & c…

Huh. I'm not storing the Google search results, and my local supplementary index is built from my own crawling, not from URLs from Google searches. But if re-ranking is regarded as processing & analyzing, then I'll remove the Google API calls now (and... done).

Brave, Mojeek & Marginalia and EU Search Perspective have certainly been much friendlier to deal with.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by cloberto »

MgB2 wrote: post #417
dannyw wrote: post #399

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For comparison tho, 400GB of cloud storage for $5/mo is actually quite amazing even if it didn’t include anything else. I know, it’s cloud storage, a NAS lets you own your data, but for non techies who have a bunch of photos and videos; it seems like an easy recommendation.

Is it though? Hetzner gives you 1 TB of cloud storage for 4 USD per month.

You can get Google AI Pro through verizon fios or mobile in the US and pay only 10/mo. For 5TB cloud storage, and decent gemini usage its a compelling option

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by butlike »

jjcm wrote: post #106

Here's a image->html test. Gemini has always swung above its weight class for vision work, so I'm always eager to try it with this. Original images: https://image.non.io/neonRamenDesigns.webp Gemini 3.7 build: https://html.non.io/neonRamenGemini3.7 Opus 5 build for comparison: https://html.non.io/neonRamen Opus is still best in class for this, but it's worth noting how well Gemini 3.7 does vs a more comparable LLM pr…

There's one specific aspect I like better with the grok version: The prices are above the fold. ON the Opus and Gemini versions, I have to scroll to see the full menu item showcase.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by nxdmum »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #215
jjcm wrote: post #133

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Other thoughts: I really think Google has fallen behind here. Even as a high speed offering (this build took ~7min, which is pretty good!), it wont be able to claim dominance for long with cerebras announcing the Sol preview today: https://www.cerebras.ai/blog/accelerating-gpt-5-6-sol-ultraf... . It's not a bad model by any means, but I just don't know what situation I'd reach for 3.7 Flash first for. Google really n…

Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com? Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known

Simple question - can i use Gemini 3.7 flash with a subscription in my own harness and not in agy client ? You're from Google so the question.

By the way - I love Gemini's personality . it's phenomenal to work with

The reason i want my own harness - is the custom tools that i provide vs the low tier tools that come with the custom harnesses.

You'll would really benefit , if we could use Gemini in our own harness and not be forced to use it via agy . i've tried using gemini to circumvent - but not been successful.

If you see this - please reply here

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by pantsforbirds »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #215
jjcm wrote: post #133

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Other thoughts: I really think Google has fallen behind here. Even as a high speed offering (this build took ~7min, which is pretty good!), it wont be able to claim dominance for long with cerebras announcing the Sol preview today: https://www.cerebras.ai/blog/accelerating-gpt-5-6-sol-ultraf... . It's not a bad model by any means, but I just don't know what situation I'd reach for 3.7 Flash first for. Google really n…

Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com? Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known

I have a Google account that I had tied to a domain I originally purchased from google (when they had the .dev offerings), and now that it's been purchased by square space my ability to use AI through that account is in a bizarre state. Even my free gmail account has more AI offerings, and I'm not allowed to pay for improved AI offerings on my custom domain & google workspace account.

I know this is probably a pretty small edge case, but it is a bit frustrating. Any other provider lets you sign up with an email and give them a payment processor/card, but because google wants me to only use their unified workspace for signing up, I'm completely locked out now.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by peab »

icelancer wrote: post #156
peab wrote: post #70

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gemini flash is probably the best model for visual tasks right now. they also make it really easy to ingest videos

Crazy it's still the only video understanding endpoint. It's what I use it for and no other model even offers a competitor.

to be fair, all it's doing is sampling the frames and maybe doing transcription, if I'm not mistaken. So you can do it with the other models too, you just need to sample the frames yourself and do the transcript yourself

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by cmbuck »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #349
dwa3592 wrote: post #174

I was going to cancel my gemini membership today ..... still going ahead. In my experience, gemini 3.1 pro, 3.5, 3.6 flash constantly lie too much about completing their tasks whereas sol (even though equally dumb) never claims something has been done when it hasn't been.

That's a good point and something I encountered yesterday. On a multi-agent task, Gemini was the only model that got near the end, ran tests, saw it had issues, took a screenshot, saw the issues, and then said, "I'll mark it complete" and delivered. I was paying for Ultra, then downgraded to Pro and at this point I'm near abandoning it. Agy as a harness also has a tendency to constantly request significant elevations…

I was pretty sure that the consumer AI Pro, AI Ultra, etc subscriptions have no relevance or impact to Antigravity quota, nor the policies on using data for model training. Do you have information to indicate otherwise?

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by simonw »

simonw wrote: post #141

The "introductory pricing" for this 3.7 Flash model is really weird. It's scheduled to double in price on December 31, 2026, but who would anticipate still using this model five months from now? Especially since 3.6 Flash came out just three weeks ago! My first effort with default thinking level produced an ambitious pelican, let down by a flawed bicycle: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer#url=ht..…

IMPORTANT UPDATE: This was my fault.

Gemini 3.7 Flash produces SVG that works in all three browsers. My vibe-coded tool for rendering those SVGs in a document was stripping some attributes.

I've fixed that bug now and https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer.html#u... shows the pelicans as they should have been rendered across all three browsers.

(Here's the fix: https://github.com/simonw/tools/commit/78fca0e647a9e20eff169... )

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