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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by danillonunes »

naravara wrote: post #69
bonoboTP wrote: post #27

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That reasoning isn't wrong, though it seems ridiculous when looked at with techie-brain. But if there is a standard expectation of what serious company websites are like, it makes business sense to look like that too. It's like dressing up appropriately to cultural expectations. You can deviate somewhat but you have to strategically spend your weirdness points.

How nice of the EU to have determined for the rest of the world that the “cultural expectation” should be that every business do the design equivalent of wearing clown makeup.

It's more like a cultural expectation that business do shady things and the "clown makeup" is a compromise that government found between making those shady things illegal (utopia) and don't intervene at all and let the corporations set their rules (dystopia).

It's like those warnings in cigarettes packages saying they will kill you. I know cigarettes are bad, but the warnings also make me believe there's at least "some" control in how bad they are. Now if I buy one without the warnings, I will worry those in particular are extra-shady and likely to kill me even faster.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by mjhay »

heathrow83829 wrote: post #235
bee_rider wrote: post #114

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> Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's that at? This is the most annoying thing on the internet. There’s a site I’d like to use, but “try the app” takes up the entire page (and appears to be impossible to dismiss?). Actually, is there a way to permanently request the desktop site for all future visits to a domain on iOS? There is n…

Wells Fargo went so far as to remove their best feature from their website: the Spending breakdown page! they now say go to the app but the app is far worse than the browser version was before they removed it. i might even stop using them just for this mess.

Sounds like that feature would really cut into their overdraft fees.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by wasmperson »

boomlinde wrote: post #49
WarmWash wrote: post #22

Loaded way too fast and is way too responsive. Also when I checked NoScript, it's only loading js from lxe.github.io I expect there to be at minimum 8 domains, but often 12-18.

All buttons and links need to shift around for a good 10 seconds before the page settles.

Adding to the list of random examples: DuckDuckGo's AI answer box shifts the entire page down once the text is done generating, which happens some unpredictable time after the page has finished loading. The size of the downward shift is somehow exactly enough to shift all results down by one, making me accidentally click on the link just above the one I wanted to click.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by cobbzilla »

breuleux wrote: post #350
cobbzilla wrote: post #346

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Devil's advocate, the worst-case scenario is really bad, and would probably be common: A random button your pointer is unintentionally hovering on stays put while the rest of the page wildly formats around it, super-janky UX.

Yeah, it would need to be designed and tested carefully. Rather than formatting around things, I would probably be fine with something simple like overlaying the previous layout in a small disk area under the cursor. So if a button shifts down, you'd see it shift down, but there would be a copy of it still under your cursor, which would fade on its own after a short period. Alternatively, we could disable clicking/se…

As someone similarly frustrated by these UI shenanigans, I’m impressed with how well thought-through your idea is. It sounds reasonable! Probably not that hard to implement either. Could it be a mere vibe-coding session away from existence?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by tonymet »

aavci wrote: post #348

I don't see any answers here with a link to best practices or a grading system or something promoting clean websites. What can be done in this space? You get things rating accessibility, methodologies for building apps but nothing about standards for website quality?

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by dessimus »

philistine wrote: post #248
heathrow83829 wrote: post #235

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Wells Fargo went so far as to remove their best feature from their website: the Spending breakdown page! they now say go to the app but the app is far worse than the browser version was before they removed it. i might even stop using them just for this mess.

DO IT! They probably do not even consider the idea that they would lose customers due to UX. Lower rates, promotions, change of circumstances, but there probably isn't a checkmark in their loss of customer forms that include we made our user interface worse .

Meh, WF already has their info, they just create 3 more accounts for every one that is closed.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by malfist »

stickfigure wrote: post #257
heathrow83829 wrote: post #235

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Wells Fargo went so far as to remove their best feature from their website: the Spending breakdown page! they now say go to the app but the app is far worse than the browser version was before they removed it. i might even stop using them just for this mess.

You should stop using Wells Fargo anyway. It's been what, nine months since their last national scandal? They're overdue.

You can try to stop using Wells Fargo, but they won't let you. They'll just open more accounts for you

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by [deleted] »

RivieraKid wrote: post #14

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by delecti »

dessimus wrote: post #367
philistine wrote: post #248

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DO IT! They probably do not even consider the idea that they would lose customers due to UX. Lower rates, promotions, change of circumstances, but there probably isn't a checkmark in their loss of customer forms that include we made our user interface worse .

Meh, WF already has their info, they just create 3 more accounts for every one that is closed.

Opening accounts like that might benefit the associate who gets credit for them, but money is the metric that actually counts.

And if nothing else, leaving a company whose service sucks doesn't need to send a message, it's just moving so the service you receive improves.

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