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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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> Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's that at? This is the most annoying thing on the internet. There’s a site I’d like to use, but “try the app” takes up the entire page (and appears to be impossible to dismiss?). Actually, is there a way to permanently request the desktop site for all future visits to a domain on iOS? There is n…

If the site happens to be a discussion site that starts with 'R', clearing cookies will let you through for a while. In Brave, there's a setting to do so when you leave the page.

Nah, it isn’t Reddit. I actually removed Reddit from my search results once they stopped allowing me to use the old interface.

It’s just some random job board that happens to be popular in my niche for whatever reason.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #95

Should load much slower. Also, where is the unrelated autoplaying video that will unmute if you actually click it, that follows your scrolling and only becomes smaller when you dismiss it? Plus, it should probably have text that cuts off letting you know you can have access for just $10/month. Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's t…

"We value your privacy! We and our 892 legitimate business partners use cookies to improve your experience."

The record I saw is more like 1892 partner

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#255
Every Fucking Website 2026:

- Paragraphs emerge from the background as you scroll, sometimes only after 3/4 of your screen is empty.

- Some paragraphs are hidden until you expand them. You can’t expand more than one at a time.

- Horizontal scrolling for some items, like e.g. meal categories in a restaurant. The buttons for the scrolling are different on each site, or are dots you must click on.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#257

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> Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's that at? This is the most annoying thing on the internet. There’s a site I’d like to use, but “try the app” takes up the entire page (and appears to be impossible to dismiss?). Actually, is there a way to permanently request the desktop site for all future visits to a domain on iOS? There is n…

Wells Fargo went so far as to remove their best feature from their website: the Spending breakdown page! they now say go to the app but the app is far worse than the browser version was before they removed it. i might even stop using them just for this mess.

You should stop using Wells Fargo anyway. It's been what, nine months since their last national scandal? They're overdue.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#258

I started an e-commerce brand on a Shopify site. I swore to myself I would never put up one of those stupid things that pops up "Someone bought X product an hour ago!" messages in the corner of the screen. I ended up trying it. Boosted conversion rate meaningfully. Worth the price I pay in mild self-loathing. Chesterton's popup, I guess.

That's the real problem. Being aggressively annoying works . Dark patterns work. Popups that grab your attention work. Flashing text conveying urgency works. Thumbnails with open-mouth YouTube-face work. Moving buttons around so people mis-click works. Tiny [X] buttons that make people accidentally click an ad work. You're never going to convince someone to stop doing something that is making them money.

On the extreme side, things like blackmail and fraud are generally illegal, even if they can make you money. Most of these dark patterns that "work" tend to follow a similar pattern: by taking advantage of the target, one can extract more money from them.

I would possibly be a terrible salesperson, because these all give me the ick. Your product should provide an offer of genuine value.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #249

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I am obviously referring to a scenario where tracking cookies would be highly beneficial to expanding the business, e.g. e-commerce.

Don't set a tracking cookie, use of IP addresses is allowed for legitimate purposes (Art 6(1)(f)) as long as they're not stored. At least for GDPR... The only ways to actually track without a consent pop-up are: (1) stay off the device entirely and process server-transmitted data under legitimate interests with a privacy notice, or (2) confine any device storage to what's strictly necessary for the service the user r…

This goes to show that the assertion that cookie banners are just "malicious compliance" isn't quite correct. These are significant trade-offs here.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #59

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I see a lot of people below arguing that this isn’t the fault of the EU policy but the companies. I think that’s being overly charitable to the policy. While you can be rightly upset with the companies behavior, ultimately policy has to work with the incentives it creates. The policy in its current form allows for meeting requirements with annoying cookie banner opt-outs while keeping the lucrative business of tracki…

Classic over-regulation producing unintended side effects

Really?

Because the industry really respected DNT[0]?

Regulations are needed when the kids cannot play nice in the school yard.

GDPR is actually not that bad if you read it rather than subscribing to much of the malicious compliance we see.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track

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