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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by dgellow »

naravara wrote: post #82
mmillin wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a lot of people below arguing that this isn’t the fault of the EU policy but the companies. I think that’s being overly charitable to the policy. While you can be rightly upset with the companies behavior, ultimately policy has to work with the incentives it creates. The policy in its current form allows for meeting requirements with annoying cookie banner opt-outs while keeping the lucrative business of tracki…

I’ve long believed that making companies liable for paying damages if PII is leaked in a data breach would be the best way to stop excessive tracking. If you force them to have to manage user data like they’re handling radioactive waste then the expense and overhead involved is a natural drag on the business logic that drives the bottomless appetite for data collection. They’ll collect it if they actually need it, an…

That’s already part of the EU regulations people in the comments complain about

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by breuleux »

boomlinde wrote: post #49
WarmWash wrote: post #22

Loaded way too fast and is way too responsive. Also when I checked NoScript, it's only loading js from lxe.github.io I expect there to be at minimum 8 domains, but often 12-18.

All buttons and links need to shift around for a good 10 seconds before the page settles.

I wish we had a UI paradigm where whatever is underneath your cursor is not allowed to change. If you hover a button, that button must remain right there for you to click, if you hover some text, it must remain there for you to select. Browser and OS-enforced, ideally.

We can debate the specifics, maybe it's only in effect for X seconds after you stop moving the cursor, maybe it creates a 100px diameter disk of stability, I don't know. Just let me interact with the stuff I see.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by dstanko »

I may be skeptical, so take this with a grain of salt. The transformation happened when someone decided to stop being UI designer, to become UX designer. That wasn't enough, so they came up with XD - experience design. At every step of the way, they introduced more lofty goals for the design to justify the increased importance of themselves.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by jchw »

bee_rider wrote: post #114
jchw wrote: post #95

Should load much slower. Also, where is the unrelated autoplaying video that will unmute if you actually click it, that follows your scrolling and only becomes smaller when you dismiss it? Plus, it should probably have text that cuts off letting you know you can have access for just $10/month. Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's t…

> Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's that at? This is the most annoying thing on the internet. There’s a site I’d like to use, but “try the app” takes up the entire page (and appears to be impossible to dismiss?). Actually, is there a way to permanently request the desktop site for all future visits to a domain on iOS? There is n…

I'd recommend using Libredirect if you're on a Firefox-based mobile browser. It can configure redirects to alternate "frontends" that will serve you much more agreeable HTML (though because we live in hell, it will usually still involve antibotting out of sheer necessity. But I accept this.)

For Reddit, my choice for now is safereddit. If I need to view a Reddit link on mobile and old Reddit is blocked as it sometimes is, I just swap the domain to safereddit.com.

For Twitter, my choice has been xcancel for ages. I have no idea how that manages to stay up in spite of Twitter's hostility but it is a Nitter instance that seems to just work.

You can also run these frontends yourself, too, but I assume it requires accounts.

(edit: Also I hope it goes without saying that I don't really have any specific trust that my activity is necessarily more "private" with these frontends, although honestly if I was forced to bet I would have to bet that they are much more respectful to my privacy than Twitter or Reddit are. I just use them for functionality.)

Good luck fellow traveler. If there was more to do in real life, I'd probably had thrown my phone into the ocean by now. I'm about halfway there in spite of the lack of many appealing third spaces.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by StableAlkyne »

zetanor wrote: post #51
nirava wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not web devs per se, I’d be hard pressed to find a serious web dev who wanted to “forcefully sodomize users”. Thats a management thing

"No." If every webdev who would say no can be trivially replaced by webdevs who won't say no, then yes, it is webdevs.

"Damn, I'm being asked to put a cookie into this site that will maybe result in some guy seeing an ad about a toothpaste he might buy at some point in the future.

I'm going to risk months of unemployment and explain to my family why this is more important than eating when I get home. The internet is serious business, they'll understand."

-- the hypothetical webdev in that scenario, I guess?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by frantathefranta »

idopmstuff wrote: post #152

I started an e-commerce brand on a Shopify site. I swore to myself I would never put up one of those stupid things that pops up "Someone bought X product an hour ago!" messages in the corner of the screen. I ended up trying it. Boosted conversion rate meaningfully. Worth the price I pay in mild self-loathing. Chesterton's popup, I guess.

Out of all the annoying website things, always thought that one was pretty tame. Almost feels like a spiritual successor to the visit-o-meter. Obviously as long is it doesn't put a (1) on my tab or makes a noise and doesn't steal mouse focus.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by 1dom »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #117

Yeah, I hand-rolled my site. Not even Google analytics. I have absolutely no idea if anyone even visits my site. Oh well.

No need to worry, I just visited. Now you know.

Seems like the sort of site and person who should have a guestbook - I would have left an appreciative and encouraging comment there, but this will have to do:)

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by stackghost »

boomlinde wrote: post #49
WarmWash wrote: post #22

Loaded way too fast and is way too responsive. Also when I checked NoScript, it's only loading js from lxe.github.io I expect there to be at minimum 8 domains, but often 12-18.

All buttons and links need to shift around for a good 10 seconds before the page settles.

js eventListener that intercepts the click/tap event, moves the button somewhere else, and clicks the ad underneath.
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