If the benchmarks don't lie, this is getting very close to Opus 4.6 capability - which was the turning point for me for when AI was "good enough" that it became very hard to justify not using it. I'm sure there's some benchmaxxing going on, and some things you get only with a a larger model. But I'm feeling pretty confident if not by Gemma 5 than by mid 2028 we'll have local models that are almost always as good as O…
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> Beats Opus 4.7 Max I'm a huge open model fan, and have used them since forever, even have daily drivers for on-prem dev, but no. They do not beat opus on real-world usage. Qwen models are impressively good for what they are, are "good enough" for plenty tasks, can be ran locally on decently priced hardware, and so on. They certainly have their uses, and the field in general has advanced faster than my early expecta…
> ...but no. They do not beat opus on real-world usage. I agree, but then we just need meaningful benchmarks that clearly show that! Otherwise it's hand waving about something that should be put on paper in quantifiable terms.
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#53Kinda was expecting to see Gemma 4 26B in benchmark comparisons :(
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Beats Opus 4.7 Max I'm a huge open model fan, and have used them since forever, even have daily drivers for on-prem dev, but no. They do not beat opus on real-world usage. Qwen models are impressively good for what they are, are "good enough" for plenty tasks, can be ran locally on decently priced hardware, and so on. They certainly have their uses, and the field in general has advanced faster than my early expecta…
> ...but no. They do not beat opus on real-world usage. I agree, but then we just need meaningful benchmarks that clearly show that! Otherwise it's hand waving about something that should be put on paper in quantifiable terms.
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#58Can anyone who has that specific personal test he tries on different models , and tries this model , to tell us here if possible , how good or bad is this new model ? compared to others ? I only trust those users genuine personal tests
https://www.youtube.com/@lukesdevlab
I don't know if that is what you are looking for or not and as always your experiences may be different.
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#59I hope really badly that we'll get a new 35B A3B or similar MoE model! I also miss the Qwen 3 Coder Next, which was 80B A3B, there are quite a few use cases where a non-dense model Also alternate link for viewing the images without signing in: https://xcancel.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/2088280182356611304
Whats up with focusing on the active param count? Do yall fiddle with the weights or something?
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#60Completely local use is a different story, of course.