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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by wombat-man »

jchw wrote: post #95

Should load much slower. Also, where is the unrelated autoplaying video that will unmute if you actually click it, that follows your scrolling and only becomes smaller when you dismiss it? Plus, it should probably have text that cuts off letting you know you can have access for just $10/month. Plus, isn't this website undissmissably "better in the app" after a few minutes of attempting to use it on a phone? Where's t…

Wild that it is somehow worth it to stream video to every visitor on the hopes that it'll get them to stick around longer or see an ad in the video. That conversion number has to be crazy low.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by zippyman55 »

Xirdus wrote: post #94
quruquru wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago, I used to make informational websites for small, local businesses and they all wanted the cookie banner "just to be safe", even after explaining they didn't need it.

This website contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cookies.

The Irish Republican Army, even at the height of their conflict, would never have stooped to such a website.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by maqp »

I can't believe I'm not able to buy Every Fucking Website Premium with business focused ads and native advertising masquerading as quasi-educational infotainment. Also where's the sign-up with Spybook?

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by docjay »

bborud wrote: post #87
dijit wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's an example of malicious compliance by some, and herd mentality by others. I had a discussion with my CFO about removing the cookie banner from our website (because we don't set any tracking cookies, and cookies for things like login are exempted) and he said "yeah, but it makes the site seem less legitimate.

I'd say just remove it. Don't ask people who don't actually understand the cost of having it there because you will get the wrong answers. Sometimes people just have to do the right thing, take some heat and then everyone can move on. If it has severe consequences then that's probably a good reason to leave anyway. Back in the day, this is how we introduced AWS at a large company. We just did it. And once done, they…

I have the same mindset and often did the same thing, but then I thought about my doctor sneaking into my house while I’m sleeping and injecting me with the “good medicine” I had refused in their office.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by freediver »

Answer: ads as the main business model running the web since 25 years ago and us accepting the convenience of 'free'.

It turns out everything has a price, and in more recent times we started noticing that our time, attention and intelligence not being insulted also has value.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by Aurornis »

naravara wrote: post #82
mmillin wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a lot of people below arguing that this isn’t the fault of the EU policy but the companies. I think that’s being overly charitable to the policy. While you can be rightly upset with the companies behavior, ultimately policy has to work with the incentives it creates. The policy in its current form allows for meeting requirements with annoying cookie banner opt-outs while keeping the lucrative business of tracki…

I’ve long believed that making companies liable for paying damages if PII is leaked in a data breach would be the best way to stop excessive tracking. If you force them to have to manage user data like they’re handling radioactive waste then the expense and overhead involved is a natural drag on the business logic that drives the bottomless appetite for data collection. They’ll collect it if they actually need it, an…

The most valuable data breach content isn’t your advertising tracking data, though.

It would be your payment information, which is orthogonal to most of the tracking data.

The black market demand for leaked advertising-related tracking data is basically nil, except maybe in cases where it’s related to something else exploitable or usable for blackmail like if someone frequents cryptocurrency exchanges or porn sites. Nobody cares to pay for black market data about you shopping for towels on Amazon or things like that.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Post by qurren »

mingus88 wrote: post #32
RivieraKid wrote: post #14

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

Most US sites are giving the cookie bag to US users. It may simply be easier for leadership to say add the widget than it is to say we won’t accept traffic from the EU or risk the consequences It feels similar to how CA environmental regs become the national standard simply because the market is so large it’s not worth splitting on it. So they just slap a cancer warning on everything

1. It's also a piece of cake to just not display the cookie banner for non-EU IPs

2. If you are a purely US entity with no actual business presence in the EU, you only need to comply with US laws and nothing else. If the EU doesn't like a purely-foreign website, it's on them to set up a national firewall and block it.

Case in point 1: It's not on you to comply with China's laws, it's on them to block it if they want to

Case in point 2: China's local businesses with no EU presence do not follow GDPR and do not display cookie banners even if accessed from the EU

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