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Every Fucking Website (2020)

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Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#62

That "In case you're not aware, there's COVID-19 happening" banner isn't nearly tall nor yellow enough. Given a 6-inch-tall screen, the proper layout would be: +-----------------+ |2" of vestigial | |COVID messaging | +-----------------+ |1.5" of actual | | content | +-----------------+ |2.5 of EU | | cookie banner | +-----------------+ A local utility took it even further during COVID: +---------------------+ |2" of…

It also needs to scroll in after a second or two, and shift the page content down, so you mis-click the wrong link, and end up loading something that takes forever to load and somehow manages to cause the back button to misbehave.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#63
As feedback, you made that popup way too clean and easy to close. That’s not how it works in reality. You need to make the background transparent and the X so small it’s technically impossible to hit. Also think about adding an ad and a timer and move the popup slightly after N ms so that the user always hits the ad.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #18

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

it's an example of malicious compliance by some, and herd mentality by others. I had a discussion with my CFO about removing the cookie banner from our website (because we don't set any tracking cookies, and cookies for things like login are exempted) and he said "yeah, but it makes the site seem less legitimate.

You could have a 'no cookies' badge that links to your cookie policy - 'we use no tracking cookies and so are compliant with EU law ... then list any cookies/local-storage used and explain what they're for.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#65

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

Bullshit. There’s no need to track every visitor. Just stop tracking and you don’t need a cookie banner. The only mistake EU policymakers made was underestimating how willing companies were to deface their websites.

The policy is both, good, but also flawed. For example, you cannot persist settings, because one policy says that website settings should be ephemeral unless user agrees to persist them.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#67
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's an example of malicious compliance by some, and herd mentality by others. I had a discussion with my CFO about removing the cookie banner from our website (because we don't set any tracking cookies, and cookies for things like login are exempted) and he said "yeah, but it makes the site seem less legitimate.

You could have a 'no cookies' badge that links to your cookie policy - 'we use no tracking cookies and so are compliant with EU law ... then list any cookies/local-storage used and explain what they're for.

Best we can do is a full screen model or annoying toast telling users we dont use cookies and click 4 to 7 check boxes to agree.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

#68

The cookie thing, I assume it's EU-only, is an example of the EU policy making process being fundamentally broken in some way. If you create a flawed policy and don't fix it many years after it's very visibly obvious that it's a bad policy, something is really wrong.

Bullshit. There’s no need to track every visitor. Just stop tracking and you don’t need a cookie banner. The only mistake EU policymakers made was underestimating how willing companies were to deface their websites.

That shows the same fundamental misunderstanding of the modern web that led to the ignorance of EU regulations.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's an example of malicious compliance by some, and herd mentality by others. I had a discussion with my CFO about removing the cookie banner from our website (because we don't set any tracking cookies, and cookies for things like login are exempted) and he said "yeah, but it makes the site seem less legitimate.

That reasoning isn't wrong, though it seems ridiculous when looked at with techie-brain. But if there is a standard expectation of what serious company websites are like, it makes business sense to look like that too. It's like dressing up appropriately to cultural expectations. You can deviate somewhat but you have to strategically spend your weirdness points.

How nice of the EU to have determined for the rest of the world that the “cultural expectation” should be that every business do the design equivalent of wearing clown makeup.

Re: Every Fucking Website (2020)

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post #54
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not an EU law. Nowhere in GDPR are cookie banners mandated. Actually big tech is to blame: https://killthecookiebanner.eu/

The cookie disaster is thanks to the ePrivacy Directive, which came before GDPR: - https://www.edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/subjects... - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Directive

we could have settled on privacy compliant tracking without cookies, which is possible or use browser preferences and respect those (which would be perfectly legal)
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