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Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by bitexploder »

anthonypasq wrote: post #97
wxw wrote: post #41

They need to release benchmarks against Luna/Terra. Luna is much cheaper which feels like it undercuts the need for Flash. I've always considered the Flash series of models to be for low-cost, high-volume, mostly text-based use cases (e.g. summarization, parsing, formatting), emphasis on low-cost. [edit: ah, benchmarks here: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/ge... more of a Terra than Luna com…

flash-lite is more of their luna tier competitor but even still not quite there yet, but gemini's dominance on multimodal and image understanding i think really gets downplayed on this site when most people think the only think you can do with LLMs is write code

Flash models and Gemini make more sense when you consider Gemini Enterprise and Workspace. Oh HN we generally care a lot about writing software. However, until Fable, Gemini 3.1 Pro was my default for doing any sort of discussion outside of software engineering. Fable is now on par with things like modifying cars, etc. But I am guessing Fable is a /lot/ more expensive to use.

And in a typical enterprise environment dealing with documents, images, and broader business reasoning skills matter. Agents are not just for code and text :)

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by a2ff6eeb0 »

paulluuk wrote: post #453
Barbing wrote: post #415

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Sigh. You might be interested in this piece that came to mind from Doctorow: “Let me explain: on average, illustrators don't make any money. They are already one of the most immiserated, precarized groups of workers out there. They suffer from a pathology called "vocational awe." That's a term coined by the librarian Fobazi Ettarh, and it refers to workers who are vulnerable to workplace exploitation because they act…

I like this concept of "vocational awe", and I do think it's why, for example, there is so much sexual and financial abuse in the movie, music and game industry: those people are willing to be treated poorly so they can work their craft - do the thing they love. Basically they are trading away good working conditions in exchange for actually doing work you like or find meaningful, the opposite of someone who does som…

Nah. The future of commercial work is all AI. Paying people just doesn't scale.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by miohtama »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #390
surfmike wrote: post #372

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Personally I went to https://console.cloud.google.com since I already had some GCP projects. Then I searched for Gemini API Key. It brought me to https://console.cloud.google.com/agent-platform/studio/setti... . Then, there was a banner saying "Enable APIs to access full platform capabilities." Then, I did that, which took quite a while (minutes). Finally, I was able to see the way to create an API key. The fact that…

+1 GCP can be confusing - I totally get that. Even if you have GCP projects, I'd still recommend the AI studio UI - easier to figure out. Also, you can easily see the free tier in AI studio and just use your API key from there.

Luckily, an AI solves this.

But ironically my experience is that Codex/Claude navigate GCP better than Gemini.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by prepend »

stronglikedan wrote: post #201
bushbaba wrote: post #185

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FYI, developers are rarely given such a rich UX mock.

I don't think I'd say rarely. Companies rarely allocate the design resources to produce that, but the companies that do are typically much larger, so the actual number of individual developers that get rich mocks is probably closer to 40-50%.

I’d say rarely in the sense that out of the 500 times (not really that much over 30 years) I’ve built similar things, I got UX mockups this detailed maybe 10% pf the time.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by abirch »

theplumber wrote: post #272
qlte wrote: post #235

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FWIW I definitely did not not need to do anything like that to generate a key via AI Studio. It was like three clicks to get the free tier key, later on enabling billing was a few more plus typing in credit card info.

It was 3 clicks because you knew where to look for.

A pet peeve of mine is that Google doesn't let you search all the options like Apple or Microsoft E.g., I have flashbacks to trying to turn off or on bells in Google Home. A simple search bar would help people trying find API keys, etc.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by michaelteter »

I have had such good, consistent success with Gemini 3.6 Flash (usually on medium setting) that I forget about it. It is just this reliable, effective assistant that I use for managing and organizing information, brainstorming, and of course coding.

I honestly don't know what I would want more/better than what I was already getting... so I'm curious if I will see any improvements with 3.7.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by kyrra »

gekoxyz wrote: post #183
vrosas wrote: post #60

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I've blown away by flash 3.6's speed while Opus chugs along for _hours_ on similar tasks. I've gotten into a opus designed -> gemini implemented -> opus reviewed dev cycle recently.

I am actively using Gemini flash to "translate" what Opus says into human language. I let opus do the design (with my assistance) and implementation, but then the report that Opus writes gets translated by Gemini so that I don't have to waste time to understand it.

Matt Pocock has a great /wait-what skill for this: https://www.aihero.dev/skills-wait-what, which is an extremely short prompt of:

> Wait — I don't understand where you've got to here. Re-pitch that: give me a little bit of context, talk in ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English, and use the ubiquitous language from CONTEXT.md.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by roysting »

jjcm wrote: post #303
giarc wrote: post #294

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Can you share what your prompt was for that?

The original prompt includes auth codes for API gen, but here's a redacted version: https://non.io/prompt-for-ramen This is the build step generated by my diffusion-based ui tool's copy-for-agent action.

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Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by ipsum2 »

UlisesAC4 wrote: post #397
ipsum2 wrote: post #395

Recently my android phone updated from Google assistant to Gemini Flash. Completely unusable. Asking it to play music and it refuses, hallucinating instructions to connect Spotify to Gemini. The instructions say to tap buttons that don't exist. Bonus feature from Gemini: a toggle to opt back into Google Assistant, but it doesn't work. Still stuck with Gemini.

Yeah I don't know who was the genius who approved changing an Alexa lookalike to a chatgpt clone for our phones.

It would be fine if it worked. I wish I could replace Gemini on my phone with chatGPT.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by [deleted] »

fiej wrote: post #358
krat0sprakhar wrote: post #215

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Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com? Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known

I tried to use Gemini for one of my projects a month ago. Immediately after signing up and paying for credits, I got an email saying, “Action required: your billing account {redacted} is past due or has invalid payment information.” I have no idea why it says this. My credit card on file works. My balance updated with a new amount from that card. 11 days later, my account was terminated. I still don’t understand what…

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