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Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by Sha1rholder »

darrenf wrote: post #299
Sha1rholder wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It *is* a small subset, but I don’t see what’s so surprising. HN is just an ordinary tech community; it’s not surprising for people from any tech company to show up there.

But... no-one mentioned surprise except you, did they? Something being uncommon doesn't connote being surprising, at least not always. It's uncommon for me to have takeaway pizza, but I don't think anyone I know would be surprised when I do.

I'm pretty sure the subtext of what I commented on was that he was surprised.

Your friends probably wouldn't go out of their way to ask you why you ordered a takeaway pizza which is uncommon. But if they did ask, it usually means they were surprised.

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by sscaryterry »

youre-wrong3 wrote: post #256
JonChesterfield wrote: post #255

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I really like the json schemas around the tool calls. Much stricter validation than in codex. Git might be worth adding to the top level. Currently you've got LSP, grep, glob nicely structured for non-mutating queries across a codebase, but git is behind bash and that means hope or sandboxing. Thank you for uploading it. Gives a lot of insight into how the deepseek models might expect tool calls to be structured.

I don’t like it. Structures responses really do not work well with LLMs at all. They are one of the biggest causes of issues with tool calling right now.

Then you're doing it wrong :)

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

gf000 wrote: post #281
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #64

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JVM apparently has the disadvantage that nobody under the age of 40 wants to touch it anymore. I admit I haven't worked in it in 20 years, but I do think it's a marvel of engineering and unfairly maligned. It used to be my career but I wanted to be closer to the metal. Having Oracle's tramp-stamp on it may have been the final kiss of death in terms of totally-superficial "coolness" factor.

Then apparently no one less than 40 works at a faang or any other company from the top 100? Because java is still one of the top 3 languages by any ranking worth its salt (not you, tiobe).

Even when I was at Google (2011-2021) it was slowly falling out of favour and by the time I left, Go was fairly rapidly taking its place as the "garbage collected managed language" choice.

Not saying that's a good or a bad thing. I still think the JVM is remarkable.

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Post by alexgoodhart »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #255
tianyicui wrote: post #119

Hi I'm one of the authors of DeepSeek Harness. It's just an early developer preview version we're presenting in MIT license currently. Expect lots of rough edges and compatibility-breaking changes. Any feedback and suggestions are more than welcome!

I really like the json schemas around the tool calls. Much stricter validation than in codex. Git might be worth adding to the top level. Currently you've got LSP, grep, glob nicely structured for non-mutating queries across a codebase, but git is behind bash and that means hope or sandboxing. Thank you for uploading it. Gives a lot of insight into how the deepseek models might expect tool calls to be structured.

This is an AI response

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by fn-mote »

partyficial wrote: post #275
KyleJune wrote: post #242

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I figured it'd be funny to invert it and reply like an LLM to a human since they were arguing he was talking to them like they were an LLM.

it was funny. and it's a matter of pride that they accused you of being AI.

Maybe, like sarcasm, this kind of joke would be easier to appreciate if tagged somehow.

I think everyone agrees the internet is drowning in AI slop. That makes the joke hard to appreciate on its own.

Re: DeepSeek Harness developer preview

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Post by real-hacker »

invaliduser wrote: post #89

«It uses an architecture where everything is a plugin» Ok, that's enough for me. I have developped over the year a plugin fatigue. Every product relying on "community plugins" for their features implies it works fine the 6 first months, then it's a nightmare of incompatible, deprecated, incompatible plugins, with no consistency and no governance. I understand how attractive it can be to companies to think, hey, let's…

No. This is not for community plugins, it's for AI generated plugins.
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