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GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Musk: Open Chinese models will rival Fable 5 in Q1 2027 JieTang (Founder of Z.ai): It won't take that long https://x.com/i/trending/2067626647050670400?lang=en

Trending links don't work on Nitter, so here's the tweet: https://nitter.net/jietang/status/2067580270078030088

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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post #128

Apparently they are scanning OSS and popular software at scale and disclosing the vulnerabilities they found: https://cvd.z.ai/ Most of these are under embargo, but it seems there are a lot of CVE here from a wide range of popular software, many considered critical or high. I understand the argument of "people are not actively looking", but isn't the cost for such a scan getting lower by the week, and Anthropic's Pro…

Interesting... So Chinese models are not so bad ?

They've always been good enough for double digit less money. Always. Anyone thinking "Chinese models fake models built using dirty distillation scam" don't know what they're talking about.

Distillation is just forcing the model to use an exam prep workbook for training instead of generic publicly available textbooks. The models themselves has to be smart enough for that to work. It's the exact same thing as Asian tiger mom double schoolwork strategy, to paint a picture.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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post #128

Apparently they are scanning OSS and popular software at scale and disclosing the vulnerabilities they found: https://cvd.z.ai/ Most of these are under embargo, but it seems there are a lot of CVE here from a wide range of popular software, many considered critical or high. I understand the argument of "people are not actively looking", but isn't the cost for such a scan getting lower by the week, and Anthropic's Pro…

> and Anthropic's Project Glasswing is supposed to find them quite a while ago?

We cannot trust a single company to report security issues, it’s good to see competition in that domain

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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post #197

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They are selling it, not running it. It is just a dedicated computer system, which should be managed by its owner, like any other on-prem servers. I doubt that it has a good price/performance ratio, but it is a solution for those who feel that they do not want to search, buy, assemble, install and configure every HW/SW component.

I take it we saw different demos. I'm under no NDA, if you actually want to know what's up.

I want to know, please tell us

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Which is not unreasonable. Just hosting it in the EU and promising not to retain / sell the data let's you charge a healthy extra and compete in many areas other players can't.

> Just hosting it in the EU and promising not to retain / sell the data let's you charge a healthy extra and compete in many areas other players can't. It's been a few years. Has anyone done this successfully yet?

There are a over a dozen EU open-weight providers. I’m not sure if they are even charging that much of an extra. EU-based clients have little reason to use non-EU inference providers.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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post #217

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> run free LLMs locally at native speed This reads like a hallucination. What does native speed even mean?

There should be some kind of moratorium on new accounts. HN's always had waves of newcomers, but their impact was always limited. The wave passes and people either get filtered out or adapt. That doesn't seem to be happening anymore, since bots can churn out endless gibberish. He did answer you though. Native is x10 the non-native speed. 50/50 that's not a bot; though it could be a meat-proxy

> There should be some kind of moratorium on new accounts.

OC was registered in 2016 though? What do new accounts have to do with this?

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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Their own hardness (ZCode) seems to be a GUI, which doesn't work for me. They say they support other harnesses. However, it seems like I can inject the plan into other harnesses, like Claude Code[0]. Does anyone who's been using GLM models for a while have a strong feeling for if it does better in some harnesses than others, or should I just use my favourite harness? 0: https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/others

I am using GLM on Pi without any issues. You just create an API key.

Started recently though, mostly been using GLM 5.2 for planning with DeepSeek V4-flash for implementation.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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> I don't understand all this spite about "rich friends" Okay, here's a challenge: I assume you're not a rich and powerful entity, so try to gain access to Mythos. I'll wait. > I mean what honestly are you thinking Anthropic can do to give you better cyber tools? Their frontier model was literally nuked by the feds for a month for doing it. Well, first I'd suggest they stop with the constant fear mongering. Here's my…

This is a lot of words to say "you're right, Anthropic does not have any legal way to release frontier cyber capabilities to the public"

And have nobody to blame for that but themselves and their own scaremongering. Dario cried wolf one too many times, and somebody finally believed him.

Of course, Anthropic is after regulator capture, so this all likely worked out exactly as planned.

Re: GLM-5.3: Frontier coding with emergent cyber capabilities

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post #84

> Open Source: We will release the weights in two weeks after launch, once safety evaluation and hardening are complete. What safety evaluation? What safety hardening? They already evaluated it and found it to be highly capable at exploiting security vulnerabilities. So we know it is not "safe", and they don't seem to plan to do anything against it. What could be more dangerous than hacking? Biological weapons resear…

I'm curious what they mean by that too... They might be trying to weaken the cyber capabilities... Or I guess they might mean safety evaluation and hardening of the open source (and perhaps closed source Chinese) software ecosystem...
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