I wonder why operating systems aren't integrating with browsers more.
Nothing executes more unverified untrusted code than a web browser will. You want some separation between it and everything else you have going on.
Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
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Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
#312Sitting at 2.2GB of combined resident RAM across 11 processes. I haven't done a single query yet.
Is this a linux issue? My Macbook has 16gb ram and running out has literally never been an issue for me. I'm using all of it + 10gb of swap and my computer feels snappy and fast. Chrome with 100+ tabs, discord, slack, codex, chatgpt, all running simultaneously with no issues. Sure, all other things being equal less RAM usage is better, but I can understand why reducing it isn't a priority for them.
I didn’t say “I’m running into issues due to the ram usage”, I’m saying it uses a lot of ram. My computer also feels snappy and fast, it doesn’t change the fact that 2.2GB is a huge amount of bloat for it not having done anything yet and still sitting idle.
Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
#313For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?
Not using it day today but projects and pinned session seem useful, mentally
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uhh.. you can't do what codex/claude can do from a browser. Are you this out of the loop?
Copying webpages with no advanced knowledge? I really can not do this in any other ais except google.
I doubt that you set up an useful cloud environment that you can just command with chatgpt on the web without an execution machine. So my guess is you being out of the /loop
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Well yes, I was surprised by the situation in Windows too! So my stack is now split like this - Apple: SwiftUI/AppKit - Android: Jetpack - Windows + Linux: Avalonia (C#) Avalonia seems good so far. I couldn't do Qt because I can't deal with that qBittorrent look. GTK is aesthetically pleasing for me, but it only runs on Linux. Avalonia lets me target both of these UI-toolkit-less platforms with something native-ish.…
Isn't Qt themeable? I also recall at one point they "emulated" native widget look and feel in their own renderer but I might be misremembering.
It looks like you can
Re: Codex in ChatGPT desktop app for Linux is now in preview
#316For someone who has not tried these desktop apps: what is the the advantage versus cli codex with some MPCs and multiple folders each one with their context files?
For me the main one is in-app browser with feedback you can do that's native to its elements lika a network inspector. All "real" browsers felt too broken when I tried them.
The bad part of the setup is: you still have to tell it to ssh into your dev container and make changes there (since that's where the linux running dev server is). Most work still via cli, which is faster and much more lightweight in token usage.
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> > Or we are just assuming that was a PR stunt, which it almost certainly was. > It wasn't. Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. They either lied about it breaking out of a sand box, or they’re incompetent by building a sandbox their AI could break out of. It’s a cute story, though.
> Prove it. But you can’t, which is problematic for you. More honestly: " Convince me. Except I've already made up my mind, so I'll never let you. " And like yeah, that does seem to be the case, so that's a bit rough indeed. That said, if you feel like being a bit intellectually daring tonight, here you go: https://youtu.be/87DyyMV0kCY > Nobody should believe anything OpenAI says about anything. It's a great thing yo…
You are correct you have no reason to believe OAI compared to me. But I’m sure you’re aware that they are the ones making the extraordinary claim here. I’m simply saying it sounds like something that advertising would come up and it’s right on brand for the likes of Altman and ‘how quickly can I make my first billion?’ They did successfully dominate AI-related news for a few days and get free publicity, which I’m sure is nice when you’re bleeding money and losing the benchmarks race and getting dropped by Apple in favour of Gemini.
So the best part for me is I don’t have to prove anything. I’m not the one claiming it happened.
The onus is on them. Clearly HF did get hacked, but there is no unbiased evidence that this thing broke out of a sandbox unbeknownst to OAI, except OAI saying so.
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Don't install bubblewrap? I didn't and use codex in docker.
"Codex could not find bubblewrap on PATH. Install bubblewrap with your OS package manager. See the sandbox prerequisites: ... Codex will use the bundled bubblewrap in the meantime." I think neither the bundled bubblewrap nor the Ubuntu 24.04 bubblewrap works properly under Docker with the default options ... Yes, I've just tested that by asking Codex to "Test that bubblewrap is working properly" and then "Test again"…
What do you mean by "bundled bubblewrap nor the Ubuntu 24.04 bubblewrap works properly under Docker with the default options"?
Does it break anything? I didn't notice, I always run codex in "yolo" mode (the whole purpose of running it in docker).
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Exactly my thoughts! I was expecting a Rust app written from scratch available at least in Qt and GTK flavors , and maybe with a third and a fourth option. Don't they have agent swarms with infinite tokens?
They probably just don't see it worth the extra effort. And maybe they want to keep it in sync with the web UI. It definitely is a fraction of the work these days to maintain three different desktop apps + two different mobile apps + a web app. But it's still a lot more work than an Electron app that is merely tweaked between platforms.
Sure, but you are OpenAI, you should be showcasing the actual possibilities created by your product. I mean, Linux desktop users are going to be in the vast majority software development adjacent.
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Yeah, but if you use Qt like I did, you're shipping libstdc++, some other crap and Qt.
Yeah, I was kind of surprised recently that there's no solid native way to build desktop apps on Linux! I was thinking I'd build something actually native with AI but then the options were QT or or gtk...
Qt is great. I also shipped on Windows and MacOS