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Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by jzemeocala »

jjcm wrote: post #106

Here's a image->html test. Gemini has always swung above its weight class for vision work, so I'm always eager to try it with this. Original images: https://image.non.io/neonRamenDesigns.webp Gemini 3.7 build: https://html.non.io/neonRamenGemini3.7 Opus 5 build for comparison: https://html.non.io/neonRamen Opus is still best in class for this, but it's worth noting how well Gemini 3.7 does vs a more comparable LLM pr…

One of my favorite image tests with AI models is schematic analysis...I build and repair tube amps for a living, and use AI for such work a LOT.

so far, IMHO, the best has been opus and fable\mythos.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by throwaway894345 »

krat0sprakhar wrote: post #215
jjcm wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Other thoughts: I really think Google has fallen behind here. Even as a high speed offering (this build took ~7min, which is pretty good!), it wont be able to claim dominance for long with cerebras announcing the Sol preview today: https://www.cerebras.ai/blog/accelerating-gpt-5-6-sol-ultraf... . It's not a bad model by any means, but I just don't know what situation I'd reach for 3.7 Flash first for. Google really n…

Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com? Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known

I even know the link existed but forgot what it was specifically and couldn’t remember what AI* property it was offered under and it took me a long time to figure it out.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by surajrmal »

surgical_fire wrote: post #327
ls_stats wrote: post #157

I don't get it, Google could heavily subsidy their Gemini models to make it more attractive, but they prefer to not do it. I don't know one soul who is using Gemini models to code. Even OpenAI who doesn't have money or capacity is offering their Luna model at $1.2 per 1M/out.

Google was cash-flow negative in Q2 2026, and is raising a lot of debt. I am not sure they can afford to subsidize Gemini more than they already do.

Notably that's not due to subsidization but rather due to investment in capex for future growth. The reason to not subsidize is largely because of already being hardware constrained. There is no extra unsold capacity to use.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by ddp26 »

What are we to infer from no release of gemini-3.5-pro, but frequent releases of smaller flash models (presumably from the same large pre-training run?)

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by resters »

ddp26 wrote: post #385

What are we to infer from no release of gemini-3.5-pro, but frequent releases of smaller flash models (presumably from the same large pre-training run?)

Google is in direct meetings with Scott Bessent and Howard Lutnick and is prudently keeping dangerous frontier models out of the hands of customers until reasonable precautions can be taken.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by akulbe »

With the DeepMind guy leaving the building... isn't Gemini going to get old and crusty, and fall into disrepair?

I'm mostly serious here. Aside from Gmail and search, it feels Google doesn't have a good track record for maintaining things.

It really makes me wonder... if key people are leaving, what's going to happen? The Google graveyard is pretty big.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by abixb »

gazebo2 wrote: post #321
sid_talks wrote: post #209

The Gemini Flash models makes perfect sense to me coming from a company like Google. Google AI Mode for search is a product I really find useful. It makes sense that Google focused on smaller, faster yet smart enough models that wouldn't break your bank on inference. It plays well into their product ecosystem. Google AI Mode consistently gets me consistently good results and good speeds. It really changes what "googl…

I similarly have a weird affinity for Gemini that I can't really articulate. I used Gemini's free chat and found it great for exploring technical topics (and random one-off general walking-around-questions) and appreciated its speed, tone and accuracy. I spent a month playing with Gemini CLI / Antigravity and found it also an effective coding agent, at least for my workflow (entirely in the loop development and revie…

Well, Google is probably the only one among frontier model providers in the US that doesn't have a massive financial pressure to deliver business results ASAP (and this focus on agent coding and long-running agentic tasks), so Google is able to focus more on encoding deep scientific, cultural and historical knowledge to its systems. I'd assume DeepMind's focus on the scientific core also played a role in the tone and approach Gemini models take for explanations and Q&As.

I find that GPT models and Claude tend to talk in strong slangs and in-group jargon, but love Gemini's massive general knowledge corpus — reminds me of Richard Feynman from his lectures.

Re: Gemini 3.7 Flash

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Post by krat0sprakhar »

surfmike wrote: post #372
krat0sprakhar wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you help me understand how it is hard to get an API key from Google? You just head on over to http://aistudio.google.com/api-keys and create a key... not any different from platform.openai.com? Disclaimer: I work in Google so it might be that this link is not publicly well known

Personally I went to https://console.cloud.google.com since I already had some GCP projects. Then I searched for Gemini API Key. It brought me to https://console.cloud.google.com/agent-platform/studio/setti... . Then, there was a banner saying "Enable APIs to access full platform capabilities." Then, I did that, which took quite a while (minutes). Finally, I was able to see the way to create an API key. The fact that…

+1 GCP can be confusing - I totally get that.

Even if you have GCP projects, I'd still recommend the AI studio UI - easier to figure out. Also, you can easily see the free tier in AI studio and just use your API key from there.

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