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Mistral OCR 4.1

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Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#81

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

Even Africa will surpass Europe with its massive data center upstarts breaking ground.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citing nuclear weapons isn't the flex you think it is. There are only 9 countries that have nuclear weapons and they absolutely flex this power over non-nuclear powers (see Ukraine, Germany, SE Asia etc..) Europe already has an innovation problem that's already causing structural economic instabilities which Germany has been struggling (and lately failing) to prop up. As much as it pains me to say this, AI is already…

> There are only 9 countries that have nuclear weapons QED being first didn't grant exclusivity. The premise wasn't that AGI isn't useful. There are actually layers to the metaphor where first-mover advantage of AGI is even less meaningful than it was for nuclear weapons, but I leave those as an exercise to the reader to discover.

> first-mover advantage of AGI is even less meaningful

This is your opinion. Lots of tech money appears to disagree.

You should at least try to explain your contrarian position, or cite your favorite source that makes an argument that you believe.

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if time isn't money? Everything is temporary... Getting somewhere first has immense value.

A reductive equation, economics isn't thermodynamics. Money is fictional and value is subjective and unstable. Within this context, being first to AGI means nothing if the second invention of it comes 2 months later and works an order of magnitude faster than what the first iteration had self-improved to at that point in time. First mover advantage isn't decisive, you have to actually be able to capitalize on it in a…

> works an order of magnitude faster

This is the weakest part of the argument. Absolutely no reason to believe the second inventor will be 10x faster.

Does this ever happen? Even in traditional manufacturing, the second “inventor” starts behind and has to improve their own process to surpass the first.

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The VLM's are so good at complex document understanding now. But you just can't trust them not to invisibly censor sensitive clinical/legal docs, even at the maximally permissive settings.

And the deep learning OCR-only models won't censor, but can and do hallucinate. I've yet to see a 'scan with different approaches and reconcile and say you're not sure if they don't agree' system just work for generic complex documents.

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post #74

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

Huh? Mistral 7b was pioneering in its day and IMO they have been very on top of releasing niche useful models like moderation, OCR, etc. I’m glad Mistral is working on useful solutions. OpenAI/Anthropic is like a retarded little sibling chasing “AGI” and giving up on rich media and other modalities. OpenAI/Anthropic is the worst of the mainstream AI. It goes: 1. Gemini 2. Vidu 3. Le Chat (Mistral) 4. DeepAI 5. [inser…

Totally fake post. Gemini in the top?? For what?

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#89

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

The largest non-US non-China model is Russian which surprised me.

Largest by what metric? And which model is that?

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As if time isn't money? Everything is temporary... Getting somewhere first has immense value.

A reductive equation, economics isn't thermodynamics. Money is fictional and value is subjective and unstable. Within this context, being first to AGI means nothing if the second invention of it comes 2 months later and works an order of magnitude faster than what the first iteration had self-improved to at that point in time. First mover advantage isn't decisive, you have to actually be able to capitalize on it in a…

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