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Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#74

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

Huh? Mistral 7b was pioneering in its day and IMO they have been very on top of releasing niche useful models like moderation, OCR, etc.

I’m glad Mistral is working on useful solutions.

OpenAI/Anthropic is like a retarded little sibling chasing “AGI” and giving up on rich media and other modalities.

OpenAI/Anthropic is the worst of the mainstream AI.

It goes:

1. Gemini

2. Vidu

3. Le Chat (Mistral)

4. DeepAI

5. [insert MiniMax provider]

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#75
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> What prize do you win? Imagine a world where only one country has AGI/ASI. "Winning the race" doesn't give you that in any meaningful capacity. It gives you, at the absolute most, a temporary window where that's the case. See: nuclear weapons.

Citing nuclear weapons isn't the flex you think it is. There are only 9 countries that have nuclear weapons and they absolutely flex this power over non-nuclear powers (see Ukraine, Germany, SE Asia etc..) Europe already has an innovation problem that's already causing structural economic instabilities which Germany has been struggling (and lately failing) to prop up. As much as it pains me to say this, AI is already…

> There are only 9 countries that have nuclear weapons

QED being first didn't grant exclusivity.

The premise wasn't that AGI isn't useful. There are actually layers to the metaphor where first-mover advantage of AGI is even less meaningful than it was for nuclear weapons, but I leave those as an exercise to the reader to discover.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#76

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

The largest non-US non-China model is Russian which surprised me.

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#77
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Tbf even with tesseract you already get shit ton of accuracy and you can probably do these 1000 pages for way less than 3.5€. For 3.5€ you can spin up a cloud instance with 8vCPU+32gb on gcloud for 11 hours (or 11 instances for an hour) which can do way more than 1000 pages per hour on tesseract. It takes you around 6 second per page +-4 seconds start/stop depending on what you are doing on that instance size without…

Tesseract is super picky though often failing pixel-perfect screenshots... So, maybe it can be tuned for your usecase but with that kind of investment €3.5 for 1000 pages is a bargain ...

It‘s also cheaper than the murican ones from Google, Amazon, …. And tesseract was an example. Heck you can go xberg and use paddleocr. Most often layout is less of a problem for ocr. Most often you need high accuracy, which tools like these are often worse in the 95 percentile.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#78
post #6

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

It's not a race. You don't get anything for winning.

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Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#79

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? It absolutely is a race. Whether thats a positive thing or not is debatable but every lab is definitely in a race. What prize do you win? Imagine a world where only one country has AGI/ASI. Or a world where Europe only gets access to frontier models 6 months later. Far from ideal.

> What prize do you win? Imagine a world where only one country has AGI/ASI. "Winning the race" doesn't give you that in any meaningful capacity. It gives you, at the absolute most, a temporary window where that's the case. See: nuclear weapons.

Russia invaded Ukraine specifically because they have nukes. Everyone is afraid to fight back.

Re: Mistral OCR 4.1

#80

At this point I lost all hope for Europe playing any significant role in the AI race. If that’s a good or a bad thing I don’t know, but it seems to me like that’s the reality.

The largest non-US non-China model is Russian which surprised me.

Are you saying Russia is winning over Europe in AI already? Dang, sanctions really don't work.
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