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Where did the old web go? We followed 657,607 links to find out

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Post by johnnyanmac »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #26
nephihaha wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's just embarrassing stuff. That stays on the web forever.

Yep, it's Murphy's law of online content. Anything you want to reference later will be gone, with no archive copies. Anything you want deleted will be available forever.

Interesting blog post comparing the culture and incentives of CEOs in different countries? Completely gone, tried to search it up multiple times to no avail. It's barely 3 years old.

That random 20 year old video of some middle schoolers doing a flying kick and breaking a vending machine? Yeah, just popped up on my feed yesterday.

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Post by Gormo »

bradley13 wrote: post #34

2009-2014? That's not the old web. Or I'm old. Take your pick.

Yeah, I'd say "old web" is early '90s up through about mid-2000s or so. Geocities, Tripod, Angelfire, lots of standalone web forums, the early blogosphere, no social media, etc.

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Post by Gormo »

Lord_Zero wrote: post #29

The blog mentions "0.mk's revenue did not cover hosting" but then goes on to implement expensive AI integration. Not counting cost for tokens to do the development. Also: > Reply to any 0.mk email and the message lands in a feedback queue the AI reads, triages, and acts on Is this dangerous? What about jailbreaking AIs and having it delete everyone's account?

> The blog mentions "0.mk's revenue did not cover hosting" but then goes on to implement expensive AI integration.

The article doesn't seem to describe the cost of the AI solution. It does imply that it is lower than the cost of maintaining and supporting their service manually.

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

mryall wrote: post #44

Quite ironic that a link shortener which went offline for a decade or so is now posting about other sites not staying online. 0.mk, you had one job…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigadoon

  The plot features two American men who stumble upon Brigadoon, a mysterious Scottish village that appears for only one day every 100 years; one man soon falls in love with a young woman from Brigadoon. The show's song "Almost Like Being in Love" subsequently became a standard.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

bradley13 wrote: post #34

2009-2014? That's not the old web. Or I'm old. Take your pick.

+1 for this

I'd consider the facebook and mega era to be relatively new, the "old web" for me would be the one without centralization around a few giants, the era of random phpbb forums, private websites with "this site is under construction" banners and internet directories to find stuff.

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Post by [deleted] »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #39
efskap wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the great irony of digital media. Copying data is accurate to the bit and is preserved "as-is", but in practice, it requires someone to maintain servers, to care about it. To separate out what is worth preserving. We hot-linked to all those image hosts because we couldn't imagine them disappearing. Archive.org had incredible foresight and if it didn't already exist, I'd call such a project a pipe dream.

> It's the great irony of digital media. Copying data is accurate to the bit and is preserved "as-is", but in practice, it requires someone to maintain servers, to care about it. To separate out what is worth preserving. This is a bit idealized. In practice copying data is not quite accurate (especially in bulk) and bit-rot is a very real phenomenon, both in flight and in storage. You sometimes encounter it when deal…

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